Ever since the Transformers movie there has been buzz about J.J. Abrams mystery project codenamed “Cloverfield”. This was first presented as a trailer that ended with no title. I am very surprised that it didn’t take someone about 30 seconds to figure out. Not because
I figured by the time I got home there would be some link to it somewhere online explaining it. Secrets are hard to keep in Hollywood.
I can tell you what colour Britney Spears panties are today (if shes sporting any) but its nearly a month later and we still don’t know what this movie will be.
To further add to the mystery, Gorilla Rodeo at RottenTomatoes.com forums posted some blurry pics of a poster in a comic shop window for a movie called “Monstrous” with a headless Statue of Liberty. As we saw in the trailer, the head flies down the street with destructive results.
Stranger still, there is no movie called Monstrous listed on IMDB.
For a theory on who or what is making the messes in the trailer, I tripped over LostBoy92551 at GameTrailers.com forums who says:
In Jewish belief, Behemoth is the primal unconquerable monster of the land, as Leviathan is the primal monster of the waters of the sea and Ziz the primordial monster of the sky.
1) The first monster roar is accompanied by an earthquake (Behemoth)
2) The second monster roar is accompanied by a huge fireball (Leviathan, for it can breathe fire)
3) The third monster roar is accompanied by the flying Statue of Liberty head (Ziz).Not convinced?
The guy who says “maybe we can get a better view from the roof” has the Slusho logo on his shirt. Slusho is a classic J.J. Abrams icon, and it has appeared in both Alias and Lost, which are his shows.
Slusho.jp has, by now, been confirmed as a part of the viral marketing campaign revolving around 1-18-08. Japan. Strangely enough, the character Rob, who is present in the trailer, was gonna fly to Japan a day after that party and the monster events.
Let’s have a look around on that site. Not all pages are accessible. But there is an odd feature about the pages that are available. The main page background is on land, the Downloads page background is on air, and the History page background is on sea.
Furthermore, the six buttons on the main page cause popups of various animals, namely a Horse, a Whale and a Bird. Behemoth, Leviathan, Ziz.
Now I know NOTHING about the Jewish belief (John is better at these things) but a quick look over at wikipedia says that these creatures are all mentioned in the Old Testament of the Bible. I recall the bit about Behemoth, but I must have missed his brothers.
Speaking of our favourite city scape crushing giant reptile, a lot of speculation online was that this was going to be a Godzilla movie. If this forum poster is right, this will definitely appeal to that crowd.
Could we finally have our answer? Will this J.J. Abrams project be called Monstrous and feature 3 mythological creatures of the apocalypse? Who will be our heroes? Or will this just be 90 minutes of hopeless chaos as three giant creatures tear NY a new one?
@Shawn,
The Cthulhu theory has been shot down. JJ already said this monster is not based on any previous mythos or creature in literature. He has publicly stated it is specifically NOT Cthulhu.
Well from what I understand the monster is basicly a mutant squid. The monsters name is Cthulhu which is a monster that can supposely fly, dwell underwater and walk on land. here’s a link to the profile of this creature.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu
I kind of like the idea that it’s a remake of the Mighty Morphin’ Power Rangers Movie myself: seeing the Megazord fight Ivan Ooze from street level would be cool :)
That said, I somehow doubt we’ll ever get a clear idea of what the monster really is, since the movie seems to be oriented more towards the poor little guys on the street running around and screaming like hell rather than the big baddie.
Any one else notice the poster for the Movie has some trails in the water leading to the destruction? Maybe it’s just me…
http://www.cloverfieldnews.com/2007/07/31/larger-non-camera-image-of-the-terrifying-poster/
Take a look.
Wow Psychoz69, you really are psycho if you think he said Lion.
Given all the biblical references, check out Psalm 18:8…
http://bible.cc/psalms/18-8.htm
Coincidence?
Does “Evangelion” has anything to do with all this???
The guy saying “It’s alive!” makes sense to me in this sense: People who are there experiencing that attack would think that it was a man-made attack, right? A terrorist bomb or something. So, whoever saw the monster yelled “It’s alive! It’s huge!” to try to warn people that a giant monster is coming. Makes a lot more sense to me than: “It’s a lion!”. A giant lion attacking NYC would be a very lame movie.
plus, on the anti-christ site it says
“The end result is always the same, it always ends in 6”
which ties in with the “you can’t just drink 6” thing.
yes, i have to agree with you MP, i think the anti-christ.com is another cloverfield site. it was the ‘1:18’ that convinced me, and also it uses the same font/general layout style as abz-3293.com.
Monstrous is absolutely NOT the tile of the movie; it’s one of four posters handed out at ComicCon with different headings describing the monsters. Which makes me think that maybe its four monsters and not three. Then, I wonder if the http://www.anti-christ.com site has anything to do with Cloverfield because it mentions four monsters rising up out of the earth.
What if it’s a single creature, an amalgam of the three previously mentioned? Abrams said at Comic-Con that he thinks the US needs it’s own “Godzilla” which if interpreted correctly doesn’t seem to imply a trio of beasties…
I like that theory. It sounds logical and interesting. I really didn’t have a preference as to what this movie was about, ie. Voltron, Rampage, Godzilla, etc. but after hearing this theory, I’m kinda hoping for this story. If it turns out not to be a story based on these biblical and Jewish beasts, LostBoy92551 and Rodney sure are giving some producer out there the perfect plot for a different movie.
You can find the movie on IMDB here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1060277/ which I found by searching for 1-18-08. That is what the promotional title seems to be and you can find it on apple trailers under that name too.
After dissecting the Slusho.jp and 1-18-08 sites, I
Nice one, Joe! Ok, what about the “3293”?
I posted this elsewhere… hopefully, it’s amusing enough to repost. I apologize for thinking too much about this
LOL @ Moski!! That’s all in YOUR perticular version of the bible. Like other science fiction, the bible is just a story. And not a good one at that. I like the Jesus character in Dune much better, he at least would kick some arse.
The sleeper will awaken, biyatch!
Amen.
Moski, I have to disagree with your description of the Behemoth as a Hippo. The bible says that the Behemoth has a tail like a Cedar – A hippo doesn’t have much of a tail at all. Also, the Leviathan is said to breath fire – something I am sure a croc can’t do. Your assumption about these creatures is only based on some of the details, not all.
Some suggest that the Behemoth and Leviathan were dinosaurs, but that is a different story altogether.
Sorry to dissappoint, but Behemoth and Leviathon refer biblically to the hippo and the crocodile, great, powerful creatures with which and others were very familiar. As for Jewish mythology I can’t say. However the bible only refers to monsters and such in a symbolic way; it’s not a book of fairy tales but one of history and prophecy.
That aside this movie and the mystery surrounding it is incredible. This marketing campaign and the one that’s been launched for The Dark Knight are the best thought-out, most engrossing campaigns I’ve EVER seen.
Whatever this all is, it’s gonna be FANTASTIC!
Another theory:
I wonder if Rob (from the trailer) is actually Ganu (from the Slusho! site). It seems somewhat vague and all, but who knows? In the trailer, shortly before the crap totally hits the fan, Rob seems more panicked or concerned than anything, while everyone else seems puzzled. Rob may know what
Has anyone else really notice the Movie Poster… how the buildings have claw marks not to mention the weird circular “worm” shape the buildings take almost like something crawled out of the water…now whether its biblical or not …I think abrams would go out of his way in making something new and something different… not sure if it references to biblical monsters/video game/godzilla and so forth…I am now leaning more towards one new monster…BUT…I’d love to see the 3 monsters mentioned above from the biblical sense …
There are SIX Constructicons.
Not to mention the Slusho website’s music is composed of six notes as well.
Follow up:
The four creatures on the home page of Slusho plus the two extras (crab and jellyfish) in the history page make SIX creatures. The home page of Slusho says “Bet you can’t drink just six”.
There are four creatures on the Slusho web site. A horse, a bird, a whale, and a frog. I’m more interested in the significance of 6.
It’s a Transformers sequel…
“It’s alive, it’s HUGE…” obviously refers to something that ‘came to life’ and got bigger. This HAS to be a reference to Devastator, who is formed from construction vehicles (Constructicons) that were hiding out at Ground Zero.
There… mystery solved. You may now go back to work.
It’s very unlikely to be a Lost movie. Why would Disney/ABC allow a feature version of a flagship show to be made and distributed by Paramount?
Three monsters, huh? I’m hoping for King Kong, Godzilla, and a giant Werewolf, for the movie version of “Rampage.”
Prophetically, the beasts will be their own undoing. They
lol.
Always someone who has the insider scoop to tell you what it is not and then not saying what it really is.
Well “x” since you wouldnt share your identity with us, why not just tell us since you are rubbing elbows with the influential.
It’s NOT a lost movie. I auditioned for it and saw the script pages (the ones they gave out.) It has NOTHING to do with Lost.
Uh, no one’s commented on the History at Slusho.jp. Isn’t it likely that this is a clue? It says they found some substance at the bottom of the ocean that turns fish into whales – which I’m sure is just an analogy for turning small things into big things. So this could very well be a monster movie featuring some enlarged version of something else, or many such enlarged versions.
Very…VERY interesting…
Best theory I’ve heard/read yet…hmm???
No way are they making a Lost movie already. NO WAY. The show is getting better and doing well, but no where near the need for a feature film. This thing better be new and fresh. I’m hoping for true no holds barred carnage. If this turns formulaic I’m going to be UPset. Come on Hype machine, don’t let me down
I cannot wait to find out what this movie is.. I for one hope it is of Behemoth, Leviathan and Ziz. That’s a helluva idea of a movie.
I dig the idea of the poster but like most people I am iffy on the name. However, if you go to the Parasite Movie site it takes you directly to the 1-18-08 official movie trailer now, which is odd… (link: http://1-18-08.blogspot.com/2007/07/monstrous-news-themonstrousmoviecom-is.html )
Is anyone else starting to get the feeling that the speculation over what the hell this movie is about will end up being more entertaining than the damn movie itself?
God talks about two of the beast behemoth and leviathan in Job, here it is. (its a bit long so stick with me) Job 40:15-24 “Look at the behemoth which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox. What strength he has in his loins, what power in the muscles of his belly! His tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are closeknit. His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like rods of iron. He ranks first among the works of God, yet his Maker can approach him with his sword. The hills bring him their produce, and all the wild animals play nearby. Under the lotus plants he lies, hidden among the reeds in the marsh. The lotuses conceal him in their shadow; the poplars by the stream surround him. When the river rages, he is not alarmed; he is secure, though the Jordan should surge against his mouth. Can anyone capture him by the eyes or trap him and pierce his nose?”
now for leviathan Job 41:1-34 “can you pull in the leviathan with a fishhook or tie down his tongue with a rope? Can you put a cord through his nose or pierce his jaw with a hook? Will he keep begging you for mercy? Will he speak to you with gentle words? Will he make you an agreement with you for you to take him as your slave for life? Can you make a pet of him like a bird or put him on a leash for your girls? Will traders barter for him? Will they divide him up among the merchants? Can you fill his hide with harpoons or his head with fishing spears? If you lay a hand on him, you will remember the struggle and never do it again! Any hope of subduing him is false; the mere sight of him is overpowering. No one is fierse enough to rouse him. Who then is able to stand against me? Who has a claim against me that I must pay? Everything under heaven belongs to me. I will not fail to speak of his limbs, his strength and his graceful form. Who can strip off his outer coat? Who would approach him with a bridle? Who dares open the doors of his mouth, ringed about with rows of fearsome teeth? His back has rows of shields tightly sealed together; each is so close to the next that no air can pass between. Thet are joined fast to one another; they cling together and cannot be parted. His snorting throws out flashes of light; his eyes are like the rays of dawn. Firebrands stream from his mouth; sparks of fire shoot out. Smoke pours from his nostrils as from a boiling pot over a fire of reeds. His breath sets coals ablaze, and flames dart from his mouth. Strength resides in his neck; dismay goes before him. The folds of his flesh are tightly joined; they are firm and immovable. His chest is hard as a rock, hard as a lower millstone. When he rises up, the mighty are terrified; they retreat before his thrashing. The sword that reaches him has no effect, nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin. Iron he treats like straw and bronze like rotten wood. Arrows do not make him flee; slingstones are like chaff to him. A club seems to but a piece of straw; he laughs at the rattling of the lance. His undersider are jagged potsherds, leaving a trail in the mub like a threshing sledge. He makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment. Behind him he leaves a glistening wake; oue would think the deep had white hair. Nothing on earth is his equal a creature without fear. He looks down on all that are haughty; he is king over all that are proud.”
there you go, I don’t know where to find Ziz
“Monstrous.com” leads to a page about monsters. “Monstrous-movie.com” goes nowhere, as does “lostmovie.com.”
“Lost-movie.com,” however, leads to the ABC/Disney. Don’t know how long it’s been that way, though…
Whoah Nick. That’s a great theory 0.0
Can they post the trailer somewhere so the rest of the world can see it already!!!
I think this is a LOST tie-in movie. The font on the poster is the same font as Lost. Also in the poster you see Black Smoke over torso of Statue of Liberty; that clearly points to Lost. The sound effect for the monster in the movie are almost the same sound effects as sound effects of the monster in Lost (the only difference is that the monster in the trailer was slightly louder). To top it all up the same people who make Lost are making this movie; Drew Goddard writer of this movie is a writer on Lost, JJ Abrams producer of this movie is an executive producer on Lost, Bryan Burk executive producer on this movie s an executive producer on Lost and is very active with Lost’s production. Bad Robot makes Lost and Bad Robot is also making this movie. Looking at the release date of the movie January 2008 that is 1-08, if you add up Lost’s ‘numbers’ 4+8+15+16+23+42 = 108, could it be that the date on which world will end or atleast begin to end as predicted by the Valenzetti Equation in Lost is 1-08 (Jan 2008). The movie may actually fit in with what we saw in the season finale; it could be in the same vein as the ‘big twist’ that we saw in the last 2 minutes of Season 3 of Lost.
http://www.abz3293.com/-abz3293 is the plate no. of the car that gets hit by the liberty head….im sure this has been pointed out before, but still…..
One problem with your theory is that there are FOUR animals on the front page of the Slusho site – a Duck, A Fish, a Frog, and a Donkey (NOT a horse – check the .SWF). Plus, there’s Jelly Fish and a Crab on the history page.
Well I dunno about other countries, but I watched Transformers twice and shame it didn’t have this trailer, and so I am still lost at what you guys are talking about. I think, without seeing the trailer, I know enough, and i have NO idea what the deal is with the Slusho site.
One question though: why is the Liberty always get a shot or either destroyed in movies of say, disasters of biblical proportions. Or the Empire State. It’s like the law of disasters movie. Thou shalt not leave out the Lady.
Wow, it all adds up! Now the question is: are we going the right direction with this, or does J.J. Abrams have more up his sleeve?
the movie so far sounds great, but one thing keeps on bothering me about the trailer. Its at the point where everyone in on the street and everyone is running and screaming, but at one point some one screams out “It’s Alive”. Now why would he say its alive, if it wasn’t alive before hand.
I saw the trailer and I thought it said ‘lion’ too but JJ has come forward and said no about the lion… and the verbage the character states is “I saw it, It’s ALIVE, It’s Huge”
Actually i don’t think it has to do with those three monsters if you all see the trailer which is out there just gotta find it, when the people are running down the streets a girl asks a guy what did he see and he replied “a big huge lion”. Now none of those three monsters are anything resembling a lion so I’m psyched to watch this movie the trailer got me hooked and I’m hoping this doesn’t suck at all.
That sounds really cool and that actually makes me wanna see the movie but its the release date that still has me scratching my head. I mean January is a terrible month for one thing the weather is going to be terrible so most people might choose to stay home and the NFL playoffs will be going on. Now I know not everyone likes football but it is currently the most popular sport in America right now and the NFL Playoffs and the Superbowl do draw in incredible ratings.
I still get the feeling this movie is going to be bad but it does look sound like a cool premise for a movie.
Damn, somebody did their homework with all that info above. I’ll just wait for January to find out.
I might be one of the only people in who saw the trailer who thought this movie looked like crap. I’ve been in licensing and marketing for a number of years and most of the licensed properties that start this far out with so little to show for it usually, in my humble opinion, suck and have little to no substance. If the entire “gimmick” of this movie is that it will be seen through the eyes of peoples’ video cameras then I’m boycotting this movie right here and now. If I have to see jumpy/blurry footage of monsters attacking a city I’m going to be TICKED! If these rumors are true and this is a HUGE monster on monster action flick, I’m there, front and center opening night. If I see more crappy handycam shots in any of the other trailers, I’m done. End of story.
I think Monstrous is just describing the Monster and that is not the tile of the movie. I still think that J.J. Abrams is not putting out the title until Comic-Con, and this was put there just to build more hype.
I do not think that the movie has to do with Behemoth (which we gigantic in the English language), Leviathan (like that Gi-normous lobster in Atlantis: The Lost Empire), and Ziz. I believe it has to do with Revalation type of stuff. For example, “fire will rain down from the heavens”, maybe that is what the big fire ball was, and the monster is “The Beast”. You know with seven heads and… yeah… I don’t read the Bible on a daily basis but I know what I’m talking about.
But if this theory is true (although I hope it isn’t), I think it would be like a giant battle, not just a bunch of beasts wrecking havoc on NYC.
Thanks a lot Rodney! The internet boards will be in an uproar in a couple of hours, I am very sure!
-IncliningPizza
An all out destruction movie with these mythological creatures just turning up for no apparent reason and just causing carnage would be awesome!
Hey rodney maybe the transformers or the Hulk can come to the rescue, or better yet both!
If this is true, I am looking foward to this movie more than ever. For anyone interested, Behemoth is described in Job 40 and Leviathan in the next chapter, though Big Z isn’t mentioned in there.
My theories are that Behemoth is one of those super huge sauropods they’ve found, the leviathan was one of the sea dinosaurs they found, and Big Z was a pterosaur (where dragons myths came from).
But whatever this movie is, it inded looks freaking awesome.
My friends and I have thought about this and we think that it is the old game Rampage turned into a movie. Supposedly CLOVERFIELD is a name of one of the cities that you visit in the game… don’t know for sure but it’s a lot better than some other ideas.
If that is right, who knows, maybe there is a fourth one we know nothing about yet and it is really the Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse. Or it could be a Godzilla flick.
maybe its a griffom like monster able to be on land,sea,and air if so then in 98 when they were writing a script for the american godzilla movie they had an early script where godzilla fights a monster called griffon maybe this is it.
If this is true, that could be very interesting. Now, it does conflict a bit with rumors that it would be a single alien from space. Then again, who is to say that the creatures you mention in the post couldn’t fall out of the sky like aliens?