Robert Downey Jr talks IronMan2 and Sherlock Holmes
Posted by Rodneyon 11. 08. 2008in News Chat
Some actors are just made of steel when it comes to keeping their yaps shut about a movie, but Robert Downey Jr just loves to yack, so lots spills out. Here he gets caught chatting it up about IronMan2 and manages to get a side order of Sherlock Holmes in there too.
Chicago Sun Times quotes Downey,
“You want some plot secrets? Okay, here we go,” Downey said in an interview this weekend. “If he said he’s Iron Man in the first film, it’s one thing to say it and another thing to evolve to a point where you can live in a heroic fashion.”
I like that they are trying to balance the man in the suit and the suit itself. It makes sense that he would reveal they are hoping to do much of what worked the first time (if it ain’t broke…) and talks about the closing moments of IronMan and how that will play into the sequel. Great news!
Then he starts blathering about Sherlock Homes, Guy Ritchie’s take on the classic super slueth.
“It’s a contemporary version of a classic tale. But we’re not telling one of the stories from the books.” By the way, Downey’s Sherlock will also kick you know what.“The cool thing about Sherlock is he’s a very skilled martial artist,” Downey said. “So it’s not just about is deductions. This movie will also be a very action-packed version of Sherlock Holmes.”
Oh dear God that just sounds horrible. A modern day Sherlock Homes who also happens to be a martial arts expert?
I thought the brilliance of Sherlock Holmes was that he could deduce any criminal into submission and solve crimes without lifting a finger. Now he is a modern day detective and martial arts expert and we are to expect an action packed adventure? Personally I would love to see Downey spread his smarm all over a brilliant and smooth detective that outsmarts his foes instead of sticking his foot up their ass.
Downey wants to do an action flick, fine. But Sherlock Homes was never about the action.
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“it’s one thing to say it and another thing to evolve to a point where you can live in a heroic fashion.”
Doh!…spiderman 2
“A modern day Sherlock Homes who also happens to be a martial arts expert”
er, so NOT Sherlock Holmes then?
fuck…
I was hoping hed say something closer to
“the mandarin will officially NOT be in any ironman movies EVER”
all my friends like him “oh man hes the main villain…thas like the gren goblin to spiderman or the joker to batman”
no! okay? the mandarin is gay!
anywho. he dint say anything. all superhero movie sequels involve them living life as a hero and facing the consequences of wearing the tights…he didnt say anything a smart person couldnt have figured out by himself.
I’m fine with Holmes engaging Moriarty in a hand to hand struggle…but common thugs? Lame.
Ummm Sherlock Holmes knew martial arts and was a great fighter so that is totally sticking within the character.
i think you guys are just imaging bad boys type action, i have no doubt downey will pull it off. This doesn’t bother me in the slightest.
@George, although it is mentioned that Holmes was “expert in fighting with a singlestick and a sword” he never does either in any book written by Doyle.
And any fisticuffs are typically brief in the novels. Cheap shots and disarming moves to take a gun off him. Aside from that, no real fighting happens in the books that is not second hand mentioned. They talk about fights Holmes once experienced and prevailed, but he does not perform any dramatic physical fights in any novel.
@Hazmat, aside from the IronMonger, Mandarin is one of the most predominate Ironman villains. He is more than just a villain to face Ironman, he is a businessman who is a strong rival to stark.
I welcome a story like that.
If you are going to do a modern day ninja type detective why bother with the Sherlock Holmes angle?
One of the things that surprised me about reading Sherlock Holmes stories recently was how different the written character was at times to the portrayal he has received in film and tv. Holmes was a good boxer, and makes reference to learning martial arts forms. He also recommended a 7% solution of cocaine, so was not the dour Brittish man we usually see.
The closest I would describe him would be manic depressive. Completely down and moody when not on a case, but once on a case, he was full of energy and obsessed to finish the case at hand.
While Holmes was fit, the main point here is that action scenes just wouldn’t fit with his personality or his methods.
He’s not John McClane. He’s Sherlock Holmes.
Sometimes when he talks, I swear he’s still on drugs. Half the shit he says makes no damn sense:)
Sherlock Holmes is a guy who should be able to defeat anyone just by doing something mind-blowingly clever. But I guess that would require too much effort on the screenwriter’s part when all they have to write now is “Holmes kicks the shit out of everyone.”
Why are they calling it a modern day Sherlock holmes?.. A brilliant detective, who can deduct any situation, with a sidekick (ehem Watson=alfred?!) who tends to keep this detective on course. to boot the detective is a skilled martial artist..? Throw a utility belt on this guy and ladies and gentlemen, we’ve got ourselves another batman.
I hope (as I hope with Batman Begins 3) that Iron Man won’t become another Spider-Man 3 (which was not as horrible as it was a disappointment). Then again, don’t we all?
I totally agree with Rodney regarding Sherlock Holmes!
Lol, Sherlock Holmes has allways been a bit of a joke where I come from, this news makes me laugh.
I dug the Iron Man news!!
rodney
yeah youre absolutely right, hes ironmans main villain but its just that his name and the way he dresses is so lame…he uses his ring to shoot stuff i mean- cmon..
i always liked the dinamo guy..now HES cool…..and the guy that dresses up in black that looks like a knight…if they make him a little less wack then i bet hed be a good villain…
i just dont see the mandarin adapting to the big screen…you cant adapt someone that lame
but everyone i know loves the guy..ugh.
790, in what way was Sherlock Holmes a joke? There is little to nothing to make fun of with this character.
Now THIS take on Holmes looks like it could be a joke, but I am trying to find out why you think the legendary literary classic character is laugh worthy?
@Hazmat, who says they will make Mandarin wear the Silk housecoat? And Green Lantern shoots stuff out his ring, so how is that less cool?
If you criticize any hero in a comic book with that kind of snark you wont buy into anything.
So what if superman is super strong… he wears his underwear on the outside. you cant adapt someone that lame
Boohoo.. Joker killed your parents in an alley so now you dress like a giant rubber bat??? you cant adapt someone that lame.
Sherlock Holmes as a martial arts hero may be a good thing. You never know. Hopefully he’ll have the logic part down too.
Bringing Holmes to our world, having him kick ass Jackie Chan style?! Now that’s how you rape a chararacter.
Okay, with Ritchie directing it might turn out pretty good, or at least a little different.
I just hope the name “Sherlock Holmes” isn’t there just to create huge buzz around the movie…
hey if you like the mandarin thats cool.
thing is- to make him not look ridiculous youd have to do TOO MUCH.
to adapt wolverene alls you had to do is give him a tanktop…but the mandarin needs a complete makeover and its not worth it because ironman has better bad guys and the mandarin isnt really known/famous
the only way id like him in a movie is if they take ALL his jewlery off and his mustache off and the suit must be changed..and hes gotta have a completely different name..the mandarin makes him sound like a guy whos going to sell me orange juice…or a guy that speaks fluent mandarin (chineese)
i think the green lantern is way cooler then the mandarin because the green lantern has one ring and it looks awsome, same with his suit. and its ONE ring not a bunch of them…one awsome green ring
and batman has extremely cool shit…im not even going to go there
and supermans looked alright in the red underpants (or overpants) at least he does cool shit like fly and destroy crap…
i only feel this way about the mandarin, misterio, and the penguin..
Hazmat, as a guy who has read the comics for over 25 years I can assure you that Mandarin is one of the more popular Ironman villains.
See you justify the look of the other silly heroes I snarked about, so why cant you do that with Mandarin? A strong powerful wealthy Asian businessman who comes across magical rings that give him a variety of powers.
Mysterio looked silly in the 70s. The updated version looks way better. Penguin. Well he is still silly, but he is a criminal mastermind so he can be eccentric.
lol dude you cant say anything about the penguin im sorry….but yeah i like the new version of mysterio that one is cool but not the older ones
mandarin is THE main villain. and hes popular to people who read ironman comix but not to average joes…everyone else knows who the joker is though.
thats why abomination was brown in the movie..because people dont know who he is unless they read comic books. but they would never change the main color of a character if hes say…spiderman (is that a bad comparison? im sorry i hope you get my point though) if you ask my grandma who the joker, the green goblin and the mandarin are shell know 2 of those guys
but you know what? when you put it like this it doesnt sound bad at all rodney
“A strong powerful wealthy Asian businessman who comes across magical rings that give him a variety of powers.”
just give him a cooler suit and dont mention his name…
@Mr. Chris: I’m afraid you are right! :(
Dave: “’A modern day Sherlock Homes who also happens to be a martial arts expert’
er, so NOT Sherlock Holmes then?”
Seconded.