I might actually start calling Sam Raimi, Sam “Lucas” Raimi… or perhaps just Lil’ George. It appears that the once unthinkable could happen. There is a chance Raimi may indeed come back to direct Spider-Man 4. The good folks over at ComingSoon give us this:
I’m hoping I’m well rested enough to embrace it and I’m hoping Sony wants me to do it. If all of those things come together, I would love to do it. There are a lot of unknowns about the future.” And how does he feel about re-casting key players if needed? “I’d hate to re-cast anybody in the future, I can’t imagine that.”
Now, if you haven’t read this post, you may not know why I’m refering to Raimi as Lil’ George. Well, I proposed that the key main reason that George lost his artistic and creative edge was because for the last 20+ years he’s just stayed in the same old familiar settings of Star Wars and Indiana Jones… that creative people like Raimi need to keep moving forward… I loved Spider-Man 1 and especially 2 (3 was one of the worst films I’ve seen in the last 3-4 years), but Raimi needs to move on… do something else.
I also don’t think it’s a coincidence that his tone about returning to Spider-Man has changed since we learned that he indeed will not be the man to helm “The Hobbit” (apparently that came very close). I certainly don’t blame anyone for going after a big payday like a Spider-Man 4 would certainly be for him… but come on Sam… you’re rich enough. Move on from Spider-Man… stay fresh. Do some new lower budget (like under the $200 million you got used to having with the Spider-Man flicks) horror, or even comedy.
As a side note, I cringe when he says he’s want to bring the original cast back… does anyone really want to see Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane again? *shudder*
Kirsten Dunst needs to go. I want Sophia Bush to MaryJane.
Right on Hazmat!
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there are like 45 ways of making carnage carnage- the venom symbiote being only one- i think they are going to go by the “lizard man spiderman DNA combination” one- or maybe they WILL have connors use that symbiote but hell have to mix it with either spidermans or his own blood
@DAVID
replacing katie holmes with maggie jullenhall is the single most accurate replacements in the history of replacements of sequel movies. perfect move. they both look like twins unless youve slept with them both
I disagree that you couldn’t change out Dunst as MJ (ie. getting rid of Holmes for Dark Knight). They had too many villains in SM3 and about 2 min of screen time with the one everyone came to see.
NO MORE EMO PETER PARKER!
There’s still some of the Venom goo left so let’s hope they do Carnage and the Lizard right!
Hey Darren,
I think you’re totally wrong, but that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. HOWEVER…
Putting Venom IN Spider-Man 3 was not the problem. No one is complaining that Venom was IN the movie. The complaint was Raimi FUCKED HIM UP. He screwed up a great character. Plain and simple.
Spider-Man 4 …
Okay, look. I said it before, so it looks like I’ll have to repeat myself one more time for the masses. Some of the int’l friend already know my gauntlet I’m about to throw down…
I could not disagree with John Campea and the int’l friends who have thus commented to this point.
Let’s recap:
1) Sam listened to **”the fans”** and put Venom and the black suit in the previous film. If any of you were a party to it, (wanting the character) before you blame Raimi or anyone else, start with yourselves.
2) MY biggest beef with the lot of you, of course, is the notion that while Spidey 3 was over hyped and did not live to expectations, that means Raimi is now “a hack” and/or it is time to “reboot”/”wipe the slate clean” …blah blah blah. Get over yourselves. Please. I’m tired of it already. The man listened to bad advice, made some errors, and suddenly, he’s this indulgent crapmiester overnight.
Well, I could say the same thing about ANY filmmaker out there who had a film that didn’t live up to expectations. In fact, don’t we all?
Let’s say, for example, “The Dark Knight” is a ‘disappointment’ for people. I’m not saying that will be the case, and we all said the same thing about Spider-Man 3 before it opened…i.e. “let’s give it a chance’ and WB decides, let’s do another the previous film still made a heap of money and they decide, sure, let’s have Nolan again even if at least half of the “fans” think he’s some sort of uber hack just with one film.
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Now here’s a thought. Because Del Toro will be busy with Hobbit, let’s say Sam leaves Spidey to someone else and serves as a producer. What’s that got to do with Del Toro? Simple. Before the Hobbit, there was a little story floating about where Del Toro wanted to “team up” with Neil Gaiman for a adap of Doctor Strange.
Now— here’s my question: Should Raimi direct Doctor Strange? What if the script of Strange was written by Gaiman? Or co-written by Del Toro?
saimi back? = instant failure. spiderman3 was one of the worst movies I’ve seen in a long time. i dont mean that in a subjective way, it was just a plain bad made movie.
I think they need to stop this project and wait for another 8-10 years before they make another Spidey film. They need to give audiences a break and they need to jump start it with a new cast. I loved the old cast but we need fresh blood.
I believe you must keep Toby as spiderman, but I agree that KD’s character should at the very least be kept to a minimum. Let’s face it, most spidey fans have been teased with the idea of the lizard as the next villian, so they should tear away some of the “bubble gum” and make the story a little darker ala the new Batman movie.
its too late to change the characters now it wont be the same- batman did it in all their movies and none of those movies were even close to being watchable.
they chose the characters now they have to stick with it- if dunst was a bad MJ in the 3rd one thats okay shes an actress and im sure tobey mcwire can be a good peter parker.
its the writers that write the script that make tobey cry and dunst not wear a pushup brah that are to blame. not the actors- im sure tobey can crack wise ass jokes in front of sandman but fucking raimi didnt let him- so yes- fuck sam Raimi HES the one thats got to go not the actors
Give it another 3-4yrs until bringing Spidey back to the screen and give the movie a new cast! For a compromise I’d be OK with Raimi staying on, but I a new cast is definitely needed. Can we get a woman to play MJ please??
spiderman 4: the clone webs
i cant wait.
A new fresh start appeals to many and Raimi did the screenplay with his brother – one of the many reasons why S3 failed.
He should stick to just directing not writing.
I agree that an all new cast would be best… I really did like Tobey Maguire, but Kirsten Dunst didn’t do it for me… when I read the comics as a kid I always thought that Mary Jane was drawn very sexy and was one of the hottest comic women ever… Kirsten Dunst didn’t fulfil the super sexy model I grew up with… I enjoyed Sman 3 but it was the weakest of the three I mean since when did sandman fly and why did they kill Venom WHHHHYYYYYY!!!???
Quite honestly, after Spider-Man 3, I think an all new cast and production team should take over. Time to give the franchise over to some fresh blood. If, after working within the franchise for over six years, the best they could give the fans was the steaming pile of crap that was Spider-Man 3, it’s clearly ‘time to go’.
NO, Raimi sucked in spiderman 3 and because it raked in money he probably won’t believe he has to change his direction. Which gives little hope for spiderman 4, i really don’t care about the casting personally. But please put Mary Jane in a corner just to comfort, no singing career bullshit. Wouldn’t you agree john?
Ok first no more Dunst.
I like Raimi’s work but i kinda agree that maybe he should move on and direct something else and maybe stay as a producer for SM4 or at least make a couple of non spidey films then come back fresh ya know.
What i’d really like to happen is for the Spidey rights to go back to Marvel and get spidey involved in this avengers stuff, that’d be cool.