The Jesus Camp documentary may have been made to expose some insight into the evengelical church environment, but it looks like it may have spurned more than just an interesting look.
Christian Post reports:
A woman whose summer camp for children near Devil’s Lake, N.D., was featured in a documentary called “Jesus Camp,” says all the attention led to her decision not to continue camps there.
“I have a responsibility to keep the children safe,” the Rev. Becky Fischer said.
Fischer said the camp, which is owned by the Assemblies of God and rents to a number of groups, was vandalized after the release of the movie about her Kids on Fire camp. The Assemblies of God church also was vandalized, she said.
The camp’s windows were broken and it had about $1,500 worth of damage. Police figure the church was vandalized the same night, said the Rev. Winston Titus, the camp administrator.
We talked about the documentary Jesus Camp here on TMB. The documentary depicts a scary extreme “teachings” that is being called brainwashing. I found it a bit disturbing when the boy admits he accepted Christ at the age of 5 because he wanted a “fullness of life”. That doesnt sound like the words of a 5 year old. But that is not the issue here.
This documentary seems to have ruffled more feathers and has actually hurt some of these camps and organizations. Im all for teaching kids to live in a positive lifestyle, be kind to one another and to respect each other. Like John originally posted, these camps for the most part are fun positive events that promote these things. But when it gets to the point that they are being harassed and attacked for running a Bible Camp because of this documentary.
I am not saying Bible Camps are bad. I have attended Camps and Conventions in my time that have been much like you see on this trailer. I have left these events feeling uplifted and positive. I wasnt waging a physical war on anyone. I honestly don’t see this as the bad part of this story. The bad part is that people are taking to acts of vandalism, threats, and harassment to try and prevent this camp from running.
I would have thought this extreme depiction would cause people to be more cautious about where they send their kids for Bible Camp (making sure they are not serving the “special koolade”)
I wonder how many other camps are being affected by the publicity of this documentary.
it’s too bad about that camp, there is some useful truth in this flick as long as it’s taken with a grain (or maybe a bucket) of salt
I think if you take a look at the blog the participants of the film have put together, you will see that it is not their film at all. They give pretty reasonable responses to alot of questions. http://www.jesuscampers.com
I have seen the movie and it makes me want to A) Not have children so they won’t have to deal with the crap that fear based religions dish out, B) Move to another country because American is clearly losing the line between church and state so much so it makes me see red (not republican red!) and C)I live by the creed “to each his own” but when I see the blatant brainwashing that is going on in movies like Jesus Camp it makes me want to bring down the hypocritical world one by one, because everything is becoming tainted with pure rhetorical poison.
It seems like there’s a pretty thin line between faith and fanaticism. There’s a really good documentary out about Jim Jones and Jonestown. He’s the guy that started his own church and convinced over 900 of his followers to commit suicide (after killing their kids) by drinking cyanide-laced koolaid. That’s what started the “don’t drink the koolaid” phrase.
This Jesus Camp thread got me thinking about it. I’m including the YouTube trailer link and the link to the site that talks about where the movie’s playing. Would be interested to hear what you guys think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S_d1eVv0E8
http://www.firelightmedia.org
To be honest, I think the material covered by “Deliver Us From Evil” is so much more damning. Will there be any backlash against the church for it?
Sampson, first off, this camp didnt WANT the publicity so they gain nothing by pulling this stunt to get attention to only CLOSE DOWN.
Secondly, the CAPSLOCK button is on the left side of the keyboard. You press it once and hold the SHIFT key for those occassional characters you want to make capitals.
OH YEAH THEY SAID THERE WAS $1500 IN WINDOW DAMAGE …IM SURE THEY HIRED ONE OF THERE FAN CLUB MEMBERS TO DO IT FREE AND NOW THE PUBLICITY THE ARE GETTING IS MAKING MORE PEOPLE WANT TO GO SEE THIS FILM………..OH WELL THEY ARENT THAT BAD BUT FUCK THAT VILLAGE OFF THE DAM CULT KID AND HIS JEHOVA PONY TAIL LOL FUCK HIS GRADE BIATCH
who the hell cares if i saw the movie douche bag…. i used to go to a pentacostal church(born again) its all crap …the holy ghost, ya i had it and i got babtized……….its all crap, u try having 5 35-55 year old people start cryng arounf u and speacking some jibberish trying to seduce u to believ that u are talking to god , bullshit all it was was some scare tactics to make u want to fit in. 10 years later u start to believ the crap and make brain washed kids that have no sense of indavidualism and want to force the crap into the mainstream by recruiting……..and i saw the interview that the main kid in the movie did on t.v. and ya he might get good grades but off course he thinks in a bullshit idealoligy that makes society have a false sense od security….its like jon benet , who said thats what she wanted to do( be a pageant child)THE PARENTS!!!!!!!!!
I have not. Maybe I’ll get around to it and maybe not. I guess eventually I’ll see it, but I’m not planning on rushing out to see this. Mostly because there is SO many things out there I need to see first.
~Drewbacca
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drew:
that is directed at the two posters who stated they had not seen the movie but still decided to pass some judgement.
so now i am curious. have you seen the movie?
– miles
Why would you assume I haven’t seen the movie? You don’t know me, or any of the rest of us for that matter. And the post isn’t really about the movie anyway. It’s about a bunch of ignorant, punk ingrates who thought what they saw in the film (if they saw it at all) was horrible so did something even more horrible in defiance. Again, stupid.
I don’t like Michael Moore and his movies, but I’m not about to go set fire to his Prius.
~Drewbacca
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DEAR EVERYONE:
YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THIS MOVIE YET. PLEASE RESERVE JUDGEMENTS UNTIL YOU HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE FILM, INSTEAD OF OUTTAKES DESIGNED TO SELL IT TO YOU.
THANKS!
– miles
I’m not a particularly religious person and gon’t get on well mith my born-again reletives (Once when asked to say grace at a family reunion I offered a prayer to L. Ron Hobbord as a joke an no-one laughed).
But after a decade teaching in low-income schools, I’ve found that most seriously evangelical kids are a joy to have in the class room. They (generally) don’t fight, swear, vandalize and engage in the kind of senseless defiance that so many other kids are prone to.
For the record, I’m a sience teacher, a Libertarian, and believe in evolution.
Over the years I’ve had a number of evangelical kids raise their hands during my lectures on the birth of the universe and formations of solar systems and planets. Mostly they disagreed with me, but always politely. And being disagreed with politely is better than being ignored by some girl who’s writing the names of gang-banger boys on her arm and couldn’t care less what I say.
If more American kids come to school with the attitude of most evangelical kids, we’d see our test scours go up by 50 percent in a year.
Intelligence abounds.
~Drewbacca
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I found the trailer to be very disturbing as well. Some of the things these kids were saying left me speechless. I feel that it is brainwashing tactics that these people use on these kids. I really have to check this out.
yea I think because of the contraversial message people wil still go and see this film because of simple curiousity, i am one of them.
Ps. John r u gunna check out saw 3?
u know what these people are fucking sick any ways they think they are helping kids little bastards…………..these people are freacks im glad that they closed down but it sucks it was cause of a arson.