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  3. I don’t own a single cd. I have 49 albums on my iTunes, all of them itunesstore legal. I’m not nobody am I? I hope not.

    BTW, you need to do Movie Reviews now since you’ve mentioned it, so I’m gonna be holding you to that.

  4. tedward is spot on…it is about control.

    They own the material that someone is putting up at the end of the day…..and they have every right to stop it if they want…I do not believe they have lost or it has cost them a billion …I doubt it has cost them a penny but it is their material….

    i remember when lars ulrich became the most hated man in music because he wanted to put a stop to people just stealing their shit – which is all napster was at the end of the day – theft – ….no one has ever given me a better reason as to why music downloading was justified other than “rock stars are rich” – such a bullshit excuse – so are the guys who own and run banks but you can’t juts walk into a bank anmd withdraw cash you didn;t pu tin….anyway…..as lars said back then it wasn;t just about the money in fact for him that was the least of it…it was about the ownership and control of the material….he said he got in his car and a radio station was playing a song they were still recording and it had spread so far due to file sharing that it was all over the world anf they had no control over it at all……a song they hadn;t even released yet and it was everywhere

    this viacom thing is totally about ownership and control….

    I am not saying viacom are doing a good thing – i think it is very stupid but they are totally within their rights to have some kind of say over how their material is used and who gains financially from it……

  5. Good show guys.

    I agree the Viacom suit is bullshit, but I think there’s more to it than just the money. In fact, I don’t even think they’re after the money at all. It’s more of a huge ‘scream’ to YouTube about ‘control’.

    Viacom’s jewels is their content (movies, TV shows etc. ) & the control they have over it. At the moment, because of YouTube, they don’t have a lot of control over what content is on there. Viacom wants to control how their content is distributed.

    They probably have no problem using YouTube as a marketing tool. But at the moment, they’re not sharing any of the ad revenue that YouTube makes by letting their ‘clips’ be posted.

    YouTube makes money from these clips, but they’re not sharing any of the revenue that they make (not yet anyway, though other studios have already cut deals with them, Viacom hasn’t)

    Is it fair for YouTube to make money off of Viacom’s content, without sharing it with Viacom at all? No, it isn’t…

    It’s all about the CONTROL & the AD-REVENUE.

    I still disagree with your 3rd point. YouTube as a website is responsible. Your bread-maker analogy would work if Viacom was going after software developers whose software gets abused by other users, but that’s not what’s going on here.

    I see this Viacom suit is really just being a bargaining tool, in order to strike a deal with YouTube.

  7. louman I download and pay for all my music through itunes…have never downloaded a song illegally and what do you know…..i’m a liberal…..fancy that….

    oh and so does everyone I know…..so i take it from your statement that you do download illegally…i thought that was a byproduct of liberals expecting things for free??

    kind of funny that I don’t and you do…and you believe its a liberal attitude that leads to piracy….again you’re ridiculous

    as for this viacom rant…..I don’t think for a minute viacom have lost a penny from you tube so to sue for a billion dollars is silly but they do have the right to protect the properties they own and if they don’t want them on the site then I do think they have the right to stop it…..not saying it isn’t silly as you tube has intorduced me to music, movies, shows, comedians tons of things I never would have watched before….so it is free advertising…..
    look if someone is prepared to watch say a 3 hour film like king kong in little ten miunute segments on a little video player on a computer then I have a feeling they were never going to pay for it on dvd or otherwise…..they are watching it because it is there if you knwo what I mean??

    but, as silly as it is to try and ruin you tube, viacom have every right to do something about it if they are unhappy with the lack of control they have over their properties….

    anyway…..

  8. LOUMAN said:

    “NO ONE DOWNLOADS MUSIC FROM ITUNES! NO ONE!”

    Ummm… All I’ll say is check your facts. Also, look up the study done by the RIAA itself about music piracy and when it started to decline. Also check the iTunes sales figures.

    I could tell you the facts myself… but you’ll just say I’m lying. So go lookg it up for yourself.

  9. just to say i love the movie blog. ive only been listening to each and every one of them for the last couple of months.

    i whole heartedly believe that both john and doug will continue to move up in the world. maybe the most famous non porn related internet guys in a year or so.

    im very tempted to download the back catalogue on itunes. i swear the movie blog is the only thing i have a itunes store account for.

    good luck and i hope i can get a job like yours one day.

    dan – north england.

  11. i was kinda letdown by this audio edition, because there was no one there to debate your Viacom rant. Instead Doug just went with the usual liberal argument about how corporations are rich enough, so losing a few more viewers doesn’t hurt them. You also should’ve told Doug that Viacom owns many many properties (Dreamworks, Paramount, Republic Pictures, BET, etc.), and not just 2 minute clips of CObert Report get posted onto Youtube, entire episodes of TV shows, entire movies, music videos, practically anything could be found.

  12. Campea,

    NO ONE DOWNLOADS MUSIC FROM ITUNES! NO ONE! YOu see those people walking down the street with their Ipods with thousands of songs, do you think even 1/10 of those songs in those ipods were downloaded from Itunes? Do you download all your music legally?

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