Hey there folks! Welcome to the Monday installment of The Movie Blog: Uncut Podcast. Today the whole gang is here, so join us at Doug, Darren, Bruxy and I discuss:
1) Early Incredible Hulk buzz
2) The possibility of Jumper 2
3) Transformers 2 “Fallen” ideas
4) Disaster Movie
5) WGA Strike final tally
6) Kung Fu Panda results
7)Movies that have lost the most money
8) What makes you need to see a movie on the big screen instead of on DVD?
9) What makes you buy one DVD and not another?
All this and a few things more.
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Hey FinalJoe,
You clearly don’t understand how I’m using the word. There is a mythology to the Transformers history. Millions of years old. It is what it is.
Stop using the word “mythology” in reference to Transformers Campea. The Greeks have a mythology based on stories thousands of years old. Transformers is a movie based on a fucking toyline. There is nothing mythological about it.
@WADE and PHIL GEE
Treasure Planet may not be included due to whether or not the 140 million also includes the marketing and print budgets, if so then the actual production budget would be 100 mil vs 92 mil worldwide boxoffice, but if not, then Treasure Planet definately should be on the list.
The list of top 20 movie money losers and winners can be found at:
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/budgets.php
Incidentally, Prince Caspien is currently listed at #7 not #1. it still slowly making money.
Hey Joey,
Actually Apatow didn’t write it. He came up with the concept for it with Sandler and thus got an additional credit, but the script itself was written by Adam Sandler and Robert Smigel
I did find it kind of funny that you guys mentioned that Adam Sandler is trying to outdo the Apatow clan when Judd Apatow actually wrote “You Don’t Mess With The Zohan”.
How terrible will Darren feel when his friend gets arrested?
Two thing:
First, you didn’t really read Rodney’s article…
The Fallen was only one transformer. Not a race of transformers.
Second, The Fallen will not be in the movie. The title is not referencing the transformer. You’re being lead astray of facts.
Hearing you four guys together again is pure joy in an mp3 capsule. I’m shocked by a few omissions on that flop list though, Surely Cutthroat Island and Treasure Planet should qualify (or did i miss you say them?).
Thanks for the show and please do another movie commentary, please.
i don’t get why Prince Caspian can be #1 when they still haven’t taken in DVD sales/rentals, TV sales, and all the other peripheral revenues whether it be Itunes sales, toys, games, etc.. It still hasn’t finished its run yet theatically, it’s still in the top 10 right now. It hasn’t been distributed in Japan yet (one of the biggest markets for American movies btw). When the difference between the top spot of biggest bombs of all time only has a difference of a few hundred thousand, that spot could easily switch place. They shouldn’t even put Prince Caspian or Speed Racer on this list, because until all the revenues are brought in, they don’t know how profitable or unprofitable this will be in the long run. This makes me question the validity of this list to begin with, I mean how did they find out all this information about the revenues and losses.
John I am sorry to say but that Hulk 26 minute action scene was exagerrated. The director himself said that.
It is around 15-16 minutes of actual hulk vs. abomination.
Good show, good to hear everyone in one room again.
Jumper 2…I won’t jump, just skip. I loathed the first film…it’s one thing to check your brain at the door, it’s another to drain the life out of you for an hour or two…
Disaster Movie…I’ll give it this The title may be very accurate I’m not sure why the fist poster spoofs the Simpsons film (a show which itself pokes fun at/spoofs pop culture from time to time) – but then, this spoof is also a bit late. It sort of reminds me of “Not Another Teen Movie’ which went on to mock the 80’s teen films nearly twenty years later.
Now, aside from ‘Cloverfield’, which I’m sure is the main spoof, the only film I can think of being spoofed is ‘Day After Tomorrow’… because most of the diaster pix are at least ten years old...Twister, Dante’s Peak, Deep Impact, Volcano etc. Not to mention that some of them have already been spoofed.
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What makes me want to see a movie on the big screen as opposed to DVD? Lots of different factors, starting with what I see in the trailer(s) without the studio spoiling away the twists and turns. It’s not as bad as the ‘ol Cannon days where the trailer just happens to show the bad guy’s plane/private helicopter burst into flames, but I’m not a huge fan of “scenes” online or spoilers in trailers. To me, that’s an act of desperation, that the studio doesn’t have a lot of faith in a picture.
‘No faith’ brings me to factor #2: If the film is not screened for critics, (print or net) regardless of what the critics may or may not say in a review, that’s a flag. I may overlook it if the film is directed by someone whose work I like or a character/theme of interest (say, Ghost Rider) but most of the time…no critics screenings means I’m most likely to skip the film and wait for DVD, if that.
Factor#3: If I can find the damn picture. Nothing pisses me off more that seeing a trailer or other promo material for a film, making a choice to see that film, and the studio jerks around the release date. The bottom line is…you can’t watch a film if you can’t find it and by the time the studio does release it theatrically?
* It comes with a whimper. Newer films are being promoted, why promote a film two years old that is perceived to be a film that nobody cares about anymore?
*A bouncing postponement might unfairly give the impression that it is a stinker. The irony is that some pix a studio releases on time are just that, and some of the underpromoted films are not half bad. It’s not always the case, but the way I call it is this: release the film or send it to DVD. If it is good enough for a theatrical run, pick a date and stick to that date and/or time frame.
Looking at you The Weinstein Company and MGM…Killshot! Where is it! I been waiting for this movie!
Factor #4.
The talent behind the film and in front of the camera. I may not be the biggest Scorcese fan, for example, but I’ll go to the theaters because it’s Scorcese, right? When James Cameron’s new film comes around, I’ll see that. I’ll always see a Michael Mann film in theaters.
I made it a recent point to see any film with Joaquin Pheonix in it. Christian Bale, Russell Crowe, Val Kilmer, George Clooney…Cate Blanchett.
Factor#5:
Subject Matter.
I’m a popcorn film lover – I’ll go see The Dark Knight, Quantum of Solace, next years Transformers 2, all that. Most of us will. But I am also open to comedies and dramas…without being preached to and without being dumbed down.
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DVDs
Of course a buy is based on something I seen in a theater at some point in my life, be it Streets Of Fire, Traffic, Pirates Of The Caribbean or We Own The Night. It might be even a DTV effort which I rented at some point and liked (Komodo, for example)
But it also comes with these factors:
1) Is there extras/a “special edition’. What is the difference between the double dip? One freaking extra? Bullshit! Count me out! (looking at you, Paramount and The Hunt For Red October)
2) How big of a fan am I? Do I want the two-disc Transformers DVD or the single disc? How about that Tin casing?
3) I refuse to buy any DVD that is sold with a another, unrelated movie on one disc. It is worse if, in the brilliant mindset of the facists who pull this crap, the re-issued “double feature” on one disc is n full frame when the previous stand alone was in a widescreen option and the special features from the previous issue of either film are GONE! I hunt around for one movie to finish my collection of, say, Charlie Sheen’s films. I have them all but one. All I can find is a B side to a film I already have and that one I have is the SE of Platoon and it is of better quality.
And you want me to trade up for this piece of shit??????
What the hell are these people thinking?
Seeler out.
Hey John,
I loved the list with the movies that lost most money. But what about Disney’s Treasure Planet? It cost 140 millions and made only 38 millions. That’s definitely worse than “Home on the Range”.
Cool show after hearing it a counted all my dvds and i have 129 dvds,19 of them are Blu-rays. I also becaue im dumb Spider-Man 1-3,Blade Runner,Terminator,Bullitt,and Enter the Dragon i have them on both dvd and blu-ray. I seen how sex in the city did in this week box office it went from # 1 to #4 only making $21,218,305.
John
Loved the list of top 20 movies that lost the most money. I was curious where you got that list.
Thanks.
And as far as buying DVDs goes…if the movie is an 8/10 or higher for me, it’s getting bought. These days, I tend to wait on the purchase until it’s in the used category in Blockbuster, so I can get that 4 for $20 deal.
Had a feeling Pluto Nash would be #1. I remember the talk about how badly it did.
Great show, awesome to hear everyone together again.
I think it’s worth pointing out that Prince Caspian hasn’t opened in the UK yet. The first Narnia pulled in just over $77 million in that market and I think Caspian will do a lot better in the UK relative to how it preformed in North America.