WAAAAAAY OverRated!

Kudos Pixar

P.S. we mention japan as a major player, must we forget that Canada also is a huge player in the animation business, they just don’t have the support or money to play in the big game… the Annie’s as already said is a money player and that is where this article is coming from. If we were comparing animation as a whole, I’d whole heart agree that there are companies that could compare with pixar or maybe even better (such classics as akira, ghost in the sheel, etc.). Sorry for the ramble, but I hope I have supported some points and made some arguments on others. Also remember Pixar produced a great number of their films without Disney! Disney bought them back to regain respect in the animation community.

You’re quite welcome. I’ve better things to do than troll people to death lol.

As far as your view on Japanese animation goes, I say “fair enough”.

And once again, you make good points, but I must point out that right at the very end, you kinda contradicted yourself a bit, and I shall explain why. Let’s take a look at the thesis:

“[Pixar] produces arguably the best animated content”

Now, you say that if we based our opinions on that thesis alone, than no other films mentioned in the posts should be held in consideration…..But, this is where I respectfully say that you’re wrong to an extent: You see, it says “[Pixar] produces ARGUABLY the best animated content”. ARGUABLY. That means that Pixar, as far animated content goes, is not infallible and that there is the possibility of other animated films that could be held in consideration.

Has Pixar made good films? Yeah, of course. But I’ll probably be in the minority when I say that they’ve delivered some stinkers as well. They’ve always been something of a hit-and-miss studio to me. To me, they didn’t really become THE studio to watch out for until releasing the masterful WALL-E just a couple years ago.

The oscars voting process cannot be bought. This is the reason Disney dropped out. The Annies are not a fair voting field, it’s members just have to buy in. Films win not because of popular votes but rather by buying them.

@Johnny

Thank you for acknowledging/respecting my point. I don’t say that in an egotistical sense but rather it is a breath of fresh air to see someone on the internet who isn’t just out there bashing others opinions.

As for what you said I understand what you are saying. When I said classic I do not use that in a derogatory manner. I see a classic is something that has stood up against the sands of time. The original point made by nina was that “[Pixar] produces arguably the best animated content” Not to be a stickler for exact wording but that statement was made in present tense or in other words studios currently producing.

I am not arguing that those are good movies that can stand up to the best that Pixar has to offer. Personally, I am not a fan of Japanese animation, to be fair I lack exposer. But if we are to stick with the original thesis (“[Pixar] produces arguably the best animated content”) then I don’t think that those movies, however good they are, should be considered.

@ Orange:

Interesting point, but where is it written that only current animated films can be any good and that the classics must be overlooked as soon as they reach a certain age? As far as Japanese animation goes, there’s still movies like Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Howl’s Moving Castle and Ponyo. I know that three of those are a bit old, but I’m just saying.

Here’s a good example of my point of view: Don Bluth hasn’t made a single film in ten years (his last one was Titan AE in either ’99 or ’00, and no that one recent short his name got plastered onto doesn’t count). His more well-received work is over twenty years old (Secret of NIMH is almost thirty), but does that ultimately matter? No. What matters is whether or not they’re any good and whether or not one will still sit down and watch them.

But, still, you make an intriguing point and for that, I tip my hat to you.

@Jonny Martin, Japan-san

The point that (I believe) Kryptonite is trying to make is a valid one that I agree with.

Those movies may be good movies (I have not seen them) however it would not be fair to say that Japan is making good animation if their prime example are movies that are over 20 years old. If Pixar made Toy Story then did not make any animations after that it would not be fair to say that Pixar is a good or the best animation studio as they are not making any current movies. Even if they made movies after Toy Story that all sucked they would not be good or the best. To say that a company/country produces good animations they need to currently produce good animations. I am not saying lose respect for the classics but that is what they are, classics.