I think the leash is a bit too tight. If people cross the line, we are adults, at the very least we should be able to say that offends me… and at that point, by the instigation of someone directly, the comment should be removed. There are many ways to be insightful, and I just do not think ‘serious debate’ is something like unlocking the mysteries of a particular film all the time. We are participants in the film experience, we need to bump up against each other every so often and use all the means of communication we have available. We are not finding a cure for cancer, we are talking, we are engaging in ideas wherever they take us. Efficiency is not all that important on a movie blog, in my humblest of opinions.

but streamline away.

No, it wasn’t Bloody Disgusting.

The only sites I really frequent with posting at these days is this one, Halloween Fanfiction, and Dansjp3page.com, which sure, people attack each other’s opinions all the time, but it’s a close-knit community and pretty much everyone that posts there now have been going there for 10+ years and are all pretty close, so even though we attack each other and each other’s opinions, there’s no real hard feelings cause we’ve all been around each other for over 10 years, which is longer then I’ve had most of the friends I do out in the real world. There are others I go to, just to read the news and such, but I won’t post at or read posts.

I never went to AICN, but I used to be a regular poster on Bloody-Disgusting, until I left for those exact reasons you mentioned above.

as for aicn well i love it there….thats where I do my trolling. its so easy and so much fun. people get so angry.I talk about films I haven’t even seen and tv shows I don’t watch just to see fans blow their tops..its amazing.
I never used to..I used to enjoy talking about films there but I stopped going for ages and when I returned it had turned into the awful place it is today..don’t get me wrong….quints a good writer….moriarity has his moments but the message boards are fucking insane. a great time can be had there

As far as the irreverent tone of the podcasts, that’s one thing. We all know Nagy is a comedian, and being irreverent is what pays the bills. However, I think the posting area is another story entirely. People don’t come here to have their opinions attacked. People should feel comfortable coming to this site w/o fear of being ripped a new asshole by trolls. I was a frequent visitor of a certain site(not AICN) that started out as a pretty fun place to be. Gradually however, the fun of the place eroded away as nasty posters began to take over like a disease. It got to the point that I was so uncomfortable posting there that I wrote to the administrator, asking him what he was going to do about it. It wasn’t just me. Numerous people had fled the site due to the administrator’s complete lack of responsibility for what was going on at his site. John is trying to keep this place from turning into a fucking sesspool like AICN and the place I used to visit, and quite frankly, I’m glad he is. Yes, we can be irreverent. God knows I’m not the poster child for political correctness, but even I know when a line has been crossed. Sensible people(and thankfully, this place is packed with them) can be funny w/o being downright malicious. The irreverence of the now-infamous Nagy rants pretty much defuses any inappropriate language or coments coming from his mouth. I might be off, but Nagy calling Dunst a snaggletooth is different from a troll lurking on a site and specifically targeting people over and over simply for having different opinions.

And that is what it all comes down to at the end of the day. It’s John’s site and he can do whatever he likes with it. he hosts it, we get to visit so we have to play by his rules. and thats completely fair enough.

but I hardly find that if you go against the staus quo you get attacked or deleted. Hell if that were the case none of my posts nor many others would make it up here.

B-b-b-b-ut as much as I like what john is trying to say here about making debate fun and not descending to AICn types of depravity and childish nonsense I do go back to my old argument that John and Doug set the tone here. and while their posts are generally rather tame in terms of language and insults the podcast leads you to believe this is an anything goes type of place in terms of bad language and abuse. When I sit through a podcast where an actress is called a slut and a snaggle toothed bitch and death is prayed for her character in the next film…or a director is called a scumbag lying asshole it does leave the impression that anything goes. Rape jokes tend to make me think that there are no limits what you can do around a place.

AND BEFORE YOU JUMPO ON ME JOHN I AM NOT ABUSING YOU OR ATTACKING YOU WITH MY ABOVE COMMENT. none of it offends me or troubles me or i wouldn’t listen every week or visit the site..I am not being a prude all I mean is that when certain jokes are made it sets a certain tone and sometimes not all your jokes are exactly high class and above the belt if ya know what I mean

of course now I expect a black box reply from john telling me how I am wrong about this and that I am a trouble making asshat but that is just how I see it.

I do enjoy discussing stuff offline with people rather than on, offline and face to face people tend not to do the whole name calling and childish stuff, but online a lot do because it’s easy to say and you’re behind a computer.

That’s why I stopped posting at the Rotten Tomatoes forum, there are good posters on there whose opinions I enjoy and who know a lot more about stuff then me, but there are tons of people who are just up their own asses, narrow minded and if you disagree you often get replies like the AD HOMINEM example above.

Just a comment on the aforementioned topic….sometimes in other boards I’ve noticed is people deliberately make comments in a cleverly disguised fashion just to rile up other posters with the target to reach the bottom of the pyramid. That annoys the hell out of me.

So I guess if you want to call people correcting you with clear evidence “jumping on you”, then I guess that’s your prerogative.

I think what some people are failing to understand is that you can have debates and disagreements while still being polite and friendly. We’re here to have fun and share opinions, if you’re not then stop arguing and just leave!

I’ve posted negative comments in the past and thought that maybe I would get flamed. The most that happened was a friendly reminder from some people that that sort of behaviour is not tolerated. I was impressed and now I continue to share my views here and I feel like part of the community.

That is the major drawback of this site. If you don’t support the status quo, you are jumped on. Again this is my opinion regardless of how long it stays up

owh, your an idote if yall think star wars is the best movie ever.

your friend,

cletus