Comments on: Tolkien Estate sues New Line over Lord of the Rings Profits https://www.themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits/ The Correct Opinion Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:56:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: wondernut https://www.themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits/#comment-120649 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:56:41 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits#comment-120649 boo for talentless hacks who are related to people who actually did something. now to survive, these douche bags have to milk the cold stiff nipples of one JRR Tolkien for nourishment. And they have done it 150 million times too many. Screw them New Line! use your corporate powers smite these losers and their “estate”.

]]> By: RonSalon https://www.themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits/#comment-120612 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:19:51 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits#comment-120612 I read an article on another sight about this and a poster who commented something I thought was appropriate. He said, “Looks like the power of The One Ring is alive and well.” And I couldn’t agree more.

]]> By: djj https://www.themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits/#comment-120591 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:28:47 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits#comment-120591 As much as its frustrating from a fans perspective to have a delay in the production of something they want, I can only echo the sentiments of others and say that there are bigger issues at stake here then fans desire to immediately gratify their desires. If in fact New Line’s practices are again proving less than honest then give the estate some support in their struggle, don’t jump all over the victim.

]]> By: Dan Zee https://www.themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits/#comment-120588 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:00:08 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits#comment-120588 I don’t think the author of this article understands Hollywood. The movie studios use “creative” accounting methods to under-report a movie’s gross and to keep it from showing a profit. They do this to cheat people out of their due. Usually this thing would drag out forever in the courts, however, Tolkien Enterprises is fortunate that New Line wants to make a sequel because this gives them some legal clout. A court can issue an injunction to stop the production if New Line doesn’t come across with the dough. What New Line will eventually do is negotiate a deal that’s probably half of what Tolkien Enterprises should have gotten and add that expense to the budget of The Hobbit to keep that film from ever showing a profit. This is business as usual for Hollywood and it’s a lot more than two kids fighting in a sandbox.

]]> By: jason presti https://www.themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits/#comment-120585 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:44:39 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits#comment-120585 There is more that many people do not know.

JRR Tolkien’s son, Christopher who runs the Tolkien estate is a univerally hated miser who has a reputation as a mean and nasty guy.

His own son, JRR’s grandson, came out against him publicly and supported the New Line LOTR movies when Christopher condemned them.

Christopher then disowned his son, JRR’s grandson, and cut him off from the Tolkien Estate.

This is what they are dealing with here.

]]> By: jason presti https://www.themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits/#comment-120570 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:04:27 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits#comment-120570 This issue is a lot larger than you think guys. The Tolkien estate had NOTHING to do with the LOTR movies whatsoever.

The “media” rights to the LOTR trilogy do NOT belong to the Tolkien Estate but to a company called Tolkien Enterprises.

Tolkien enterprises has had the rights to the LOTR trilogy for a long time and licenses them out for all the videogames and other popular media.

JRR’s son, who runs the Tolkien estate has been trying to get those rights back for decades and has been against Everything they have used the LOTR license for Including the 3 movies.

The reason I know all of this is because I was an avid player of the Lord of the Rings Online PC game and they have gone through the same issues.
The LOTRO game is licensed through Tolkien Enterprises and they ONLY have the rights to the 3 books of the trilogy.

The Tolkien Estate does Not approve of the game and will Not give them the license to JRR Tolkien’s other works.

I think the Tolkien Estate is getting involved Now because they want to try to stake their claim and forcibly get the distribution rights back for the books.
Also, I think they want to get some control and have a part in the Hobbit since they missed out on being a part of the first 3 movies.

Anyone else know any more on htis subject?

]]> By: alfie https://www.themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits/#comment-120555 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:01:29 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits#comment-120555 its not kids fighting in the playground rodney.

its a studio ripping people off and the people they are fucking not putting up with it anymore.

saying its like kids fighting is almost saying asll parties are to blame but the only people causing any bad mojo are new line and while they do deserve full credit for having the balls to make the trilgoy it does look like they have been ripping people off all over the show…

actors took them to court…
peter jackson took them to court….
now the estate……

where there is smoke there is fire and new lines accounting practices are billowing up clouds the size of mt helen.

it is not a good time for new line. the word is shayes job is seriously on the line and that they are in big financial trouble.

despite the fact golden compass made over 300 million they still lost money big time as they totally over spent on it.

]]> By: Darren J Seeley https://www.themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits/#comment-120541 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:47:16 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits#comment-120541 What Rodney didn’t mention- much less anyone else from TMB – was that major story about more bad news for New Line Cinema, which also could effect The Hobbit.

How about the concept that the recent WB CEO Jeff Bewkes wants to disbandon New Line Cinema? The ‘Hobbit’ may be New Line’s savior…

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120269302876657799.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

]]> By: deg https://www.themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits/#comment-120535 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:26:25 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits#comment-120535 I doubt that they had been sitting quietly over this issue until now. It’s been going on for a while and the blame again goes to New Line Cinema.

]]> By: Alex https://www.themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits/#comment-120530 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:07:42 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/tolkien-estate-sues-new-line-over-lord-of-the-rings-profits#comment-120530 The article stated that New Line has not let the Tolkien estate audit the last two movies. Same thing they did with Peter Jackson. Looks like New Line wants to keep all the money from the only hits they’ve had in years.

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