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		By: Idetrorce		</title>
		<link>https://www.themovieblog.com/2007/09/new-line-acting-shady-in-peter-jackson-case/#comment-111167</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Idetrorce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[very interesting, but I don&#039;t agree with you 
Idetrorce]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting, but I don&#8217;t agree with you<br />
Idetrorce</p>
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		By: alfie		</title>
		<link>https://www.themovieblog.com/2007/09/new-line-acting-shady-in-peter-jackson-case/#comment-49629</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alfie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember that coming out in one of the early reports about this whole matter. thats part of what james cameron was talking about. it is a very standard procedure and he thought it was weird that new line would stop it.

have i read jackson contract? of course not but do you seriously believe in this day and age jackson or jacksons agent would have accepted a contract that was offering profit participation without there being any provision for jackson to be able audit the books and check they were keeping everythig above board?

who in their right mind would accept points in a deal but not have anything in there to make sure they could check it?

even my friends tiny little band have the right to audit their record label ... it si a standard term in most modern day entertainment contracts and onyl an idiot wouldn;lt protect themselves without having and audit clause.

it goes both ways as well...I am sure new line have a audit clause on jackson production team and weta.

it is an industry standard.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember that coming out in one of the early reports about this whole matter. thats part of what james cameron was talking about. it is a very standard procedure and he thought it was weird that new line would stop it.</p>
<p>have i read jackson contract? of course not but do you seriously believe in this day and age jackson or jacksons agent would have accepted a contract that was offering profit participation without there being any provision for jackson to be able audit the books and check they were keeping everythig above board?</p>
<p>who in their right mind would accept points in a deal but not have anything in there to make sure they could check it?</p>
<p>even my friends tiny little band have the right to audit their record label &#8230; it si a standard term in most modern day entertainment contracts and onyl an idiot wouldn;lt protect themselves without having and audit clause.</p>
<p>it goes both ways as well&#8230;I am sure new line have a audit clause on jackson production team and weta.</p>
<p>it is an industry standard.</p>
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		By: Kurt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pre-Rings and during-Ring Peter Jackson has always been a class act in terms of honesty and dignity.  Yes success can change folks, but I don&#039;t think that is the case here, particularly when you ask to do an audit and the company repeatedly says no...hmmm, not surprisingly one would get suspicious.

Never agreed with the bizarre stance you&#039;ve always taken on this John...when you rant on about the Peter Jackson fanboys swallowing anything, Methinks Thou Dost Protest Too much, you&#039;ve swung so far the other way that something as blatant as your above post (and Kudos for that, there were several other movements in this case that were not covered here) still has you only grudgingly seeing things from the other side.

Ahh well.  Just opinion like everything else.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pre-Rings and during-Ring Peter Jackson has always been a class act in terms of honesty and dignity.  Yes success can change folks, but I don&#8217;t think that is the case here, particularly when you ask to do an audit and the company repeatedly says no&#8230;hmmm, not surprisingly one would get suspicious.</p>
<p>Never agreed with the bizarre stance you&#8217;ve always taken on this John&#8230;when you rant on about the Peter Jackson fanboys swallowing anything, Methinks Thou Dost Protest Too much, you&#8217;ve swung so far the other way that something as blatant as your above post (and Kudos for that, there were several other movements in this case that were not covered here) still has you only grudgingly seeing things from the other side.</p>
<p>Ahh well.  Just opinion like everything else.</p>
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		By: John Campea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Campea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alfie,

Who told you the right to audit was in his contract?  Where did you hear this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alfie,</p>
<p>Who told you the right to audit was in his contract?  Where did you hear this?</p>
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		By: alfie		</title>
		<link>https://www.themovieblog.com/2007/09/new-line-acting-shady-in-peter-jackson-case/#comment-49626</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alfie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[actually john it has already come out that jackson had the right to audit in his contract.
as do most directors. so they were not entirely confidential records and private papers.jackson is well within his rights.

jackson contractually had the right to have the audit done. 

new line allowed a partial audit to be done on dvd sales of fellowship the ring. the accountants found some irregularities and then requested a full audit to which new line pretty much said go fuck yourself.
you say jackson wasn&#039;t prepared to talk to them....whats to talk about?

jackson even said he was happy for a completely non bias third party to handle the audit and new line still refused. 

so how did he refuse to come to the party?

this all could have been avoided if new line were not acting so shady.i would like to see how you acted towards people you trusted who you think may have fucked you out of millions john.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually john it has already come out that jackson had the right to audit in his contract.<br />
as do most directors. so they were not entirely confidential records and private papers.jackson is well within his rights.</p>
<p>jackson contractually had the right to have the audit done. </p>
<p>new line allowed a partial audit to be done on dvd sales of fellowship the ring. the accountants found some irregularities and then requested a full audit to which new line pretty much said go fuck yourself.<br />
you say jackson wasn&#8217;t prepared to talk to them&#8230;.whats to talk about?</p>
<p>jackson even said he was happy for a completely non bias third party to handle the audit and new line still refused. </p>
<p>so how did he refuse to come to the party?</p>
<p>this all could have been avoided if new line were not acting so shady.i would like to see how you acted towards people you trusted who you think may have fucked you out of millions john.</p>
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		By: Master Nevi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Master Nevi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For the love of God John how many things will newline have to blantantly do wrong before you say. hey mabey i dont know the whole story and peter did try to do it through the right way and new line tried to F*ck with him the Way thier F*cking with a federal judge?
and this can not be said enough

WHEN IS YOUR MONEY YOU DONT ACT RATIONALLY

is like if you find out your girlfriend is cheating on you.
Someone on the outside can easly tell you to be calm and its not that big a deal but when its you in that postion its a whole differnt story]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the love of God John how many things will newline have to blantantly do wrong before you say. hey mabey i dont know the whole story and peter did try to do it through the right way and new line tried to F*ck with him the Way thier F*cking with a federal judge?<br />
and this can not be said enough</p>
<p>WHEN IS YOUR MONEY YOU DONT ACT RATIONALLY</p>
<p>is like if you find out your girlfriend is cheating on you.<br />
Someone on the outside can easly tell you to be calm and its not that big a deal but when its you in that postion its a whole differnt story</p>
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		By: John Campea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Campea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Alfie, You&#039;re dead wrong when you say:

&quot;the whole point of this and what the judge just ruled is that were not private or confidential and that jackson had every right to have them audited. its a very standard thing to have done.&quot;

They are private and confidential and New Line had every legal right to refuse to let Jackson have them. That&#039;s exactly why it took a judges order.  It was not illegal for New Line to refuse an audit at all.  But in civil action a judge can order you to produce things that are otherwise private.

For example, if I ask you for copies of your medical history, you have every right to say &quot;NO&quot;.  BUT, if we get into a legal argument (over something where your medical history might be relevant) a Judge can order you to produce those documents.  After you produce them, and Judge may or may not allow them to be used, but that is their discretion.

New Line is under NO obligation to produce its books to anyone it doesn&#039;t choose to produce them to.  Period.

I&#039;m not going to debate with you about your flawed opinion of Jackson&#039;s conduct since we&#039;re just repeating ourselves from ages old debates   ;)    But on this legal question, you&#039;re quite wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alfie, You&#8217;re dead wrong when you say:</p>
<p>&#8220;the whole point of this and what the judge just ruled is that were not private or confidential and that jackson had every right to have them audited. its a very standard thing to have done.&#8221;</p>
<p>They are private and confidential and New Line had every legal right to refuse to let Jackson have them. That&#8217;s exactly why it took a judges order.  It was not illegal for New Line to refuse an audit at all.  But in civil action a judge can order you to produce things that are otherwise private.</p>
<p>For example, if I ask you for copies of your medical history, you have every right to say &#8220;NO&#8221;.  BUT, if we get into a legal argument (over something where your medical history might be relevant) a Judge can order you to produce those documents.  After you produce them, and Judge may or may not allow them to be used, but that is their discretion.</p>
<p>New Line is under NO obligation to produce its books to anyone it doesn&#8217;t choose to produce them to.  Period.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to debate with you about your flawed opinion of Jackson&#8217;s conduct since we&#8217;re just repeating ourselves from ages old debates   ;)    But on this legal question, you&#8217;re quite wrong.</p>
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		By: alfie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alfie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[and re-reading you post john it looks like you still don&#039;t get it.

you call them confidential propriety book and private books?

the whole point of this and what the judge just ruled is that were not private or confidential and that jackson had every right to have them audited. its a very standard thing to have done.

it was never a case of &quot;don&#039;t you know who i am&quot;. that had nothing to do with it.
 it was more a case of &quot;why are you borderline breaking the law and what are you hiding&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and re-reading you post john it looks like you still don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>you call them confidential propriety book and private books?</p>
<p>the whole point of this and what the judge just ruled is that were not private or confidential and that jackson had every right to have them audited. its a very standard thing to have done.</p>
<p>it was never a case of &#8220;don&#8217;t you know who i am&#8221;. that had nothing to do with it.<br />
 it was more a case of &#8220;why are you borderline breaking the law and what are you hiding&#8221;</p>
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		By: alfie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alfie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[explain exactly how he acted like a douche chewbuba?? please without making things up like saying that he said &quot;don&#039;t you know who I am&quot; when he didn&#039;t say anything like that at all?

please...what made him a douche exactly? the fact that he is fucked off that it looks like the people to whom he delivered their most successful films ever have more than likely ripped him off?? 
and please use better than arguments then calling someone a blind fanboy because the facts have been ppretty clear from the get go.

jacksons team did a partial audit. they noticed some irregularities in new lines accounting so they requested a full audit which is well within their rights as this judge has just shown. new line said no and (illegally) refused to let jacksons team audit. 
then jackson came out and said he was more than happy for an third party independant team to handle the audit and that he would gladly accept whatever they find. new line again said no. 

exactly what was so bad with what jackson did? i just don&#039;t see where he acted like a douche?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>explain exactly how he acted like a douche chewbuba?? please without making things up like saying that he said &#8220;don&#8217;t you know who I am&#8221; when he didn&#8217;t say anything like that at all?</p>
<p>please&#8230;what made him a douche exactly? the fact that he is fucked off that it looks like the people to whom he delivered their most successful films ever have more than likely ripped him off??<br />
and please use better than arguments then calling someone a blind fanboy because the facts have been ppretty clear from the get go.</p>
<p>jacksons team did a partial audit. they noticed some irregularities in new lines accounting so they requested a full audit which is well within their rights as this judge has just shown. new line said no and (illegally) refused to let jacksons team audit.<br />
then jackson came out and said he was more than happy for an third party independant team to handle the audit and that he would gladly accept whatever they find. new line again said no. </p>
<p>exactly what was so bad with what jackson did? i just don&#8217;t see where he acted like a douche?</p>
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		By: ChewBubba		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChewBubba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe how many internet fanboys so blindly worship Jackson as if his shit doesn&#039;t stink.  The dude has acted like a douche. Looks like New Line is trying to cover shit up for sure, but that don&#039;t change the fact that Jackson acted like a douche.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe how many internet fanboys so blindly worship Jackson as if his shit doesn&#8217;t stink.  The dude has acted like a douche. Looks like New Line is trying to cover shit up for sure, but that don&#8217;t change the fact that Jackson acted like a douche.</p>
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		By: vargas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vargas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Rafael. I really wish they would settle this issue privately. It just makes me feel despondent thinking that all of this rancor could get in the way of them making a brilliant Hobbit film.

However I&#039;m quite sure that this wouldn&#039;t be the first time a studio is caught acting suspiciously or being dishonest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rafael. I really wish they would settle this issue privately. It just makes me feel despondent thinking that all of this rancor could get in the way of them making a brilliant Hobbit film.</p>
<p>However I&#8217;m quite sure that this wouldn&#8217;t be the first time a studio is caught acting suspiciously or being dishonest.</p>
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		By: Red Steven		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Red Steven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great.  Tell me AFTER I trade in my Lord of the Rings box set.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great.  Tell me AFTER I trade in my Lord of the Rings box set.</p>
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