Believe it.

Sandman really only fits into this story line cuz they made it so that he’s the one who actualy killed uncle Ben. I think the whole black suit story is much better cuz it is true to the comics and having a chance to explore Spidy’s dark side in one of the films is just too good to pass up. Exspeshaly since he’s probly one of the most wholesome and fly right comic book characters ever. Then Brocks never ending hatred for Parker on top of that.

I don’t know, as bad as I wanted Venom to show up in one of the films, I really didn’t want him to just be pushed aside as a miner villian and Sandman will be the focus, only cuz of the uncle Ben change and I’m so worried thats what happened. I just hope Venom doesn’t die and can come back in the future if that is the case.

Geez, some people!

At first, I too, thought that Venom showing up in the last half hour “because the fans wanted it” was outright dumb; better to set Venom up for 4…but once I got a look at the story (from the book) I’m under the impression that since Eddie Brock, Peter’s rival is seen through most of the film and the symbiont itself corrupts Peter/Spider-Man, then in a point of view, VENOM -or at least the essense of the character- was always around in the story. It’s sort of like a progression thing, where the alien symbiont is an early stage of Venom, and then, once bonding with Brock, becomes the end result.

Now, that said, when Avi said ‘fans love Venom’, I will concede that Venom served a purpose in the comics. However, Venom was one of the worst written villians ever put in the comics- I don’t mean in terms of villiany. I refuse to buy the pussyfoot arguement that “you got your classic villians in, put in Venom and give the fans what they want’.

Well, the problem with that is one, that’s like DC telling Nolan right now that Bat-fans would more likely dislike the Joker or Two-Face because they might want to see Hush; and two—what you are witnessing right now. The “fans” are mad because “Venom” isn’t the black, slobbering, shark toothed slimy hulk, that “he isn’t given his due”, and the usual airheaded shouts of protest because “the character s all wrong” blah blah blah. Screw your bagpipes. So Sam gives the fans what “they” want. Now they sharpen thier knives. Jesus wept.

Well, now, when (there is no if) there is a 4, if it is with (the majority of) the original cast, Lizard is built up to the hilt now. If it isn’t with the original cast, it could be with other villians. The “fans” will beg for Carnage, or signs of ‘Venom’ being back in some form.
But it could be with Stegron for all care — it’s how well the film is made, how good the script is, how good the actors are.

Well, okay, I DO care if they put Stegron in there…

Without spoiling anything, I felt that not enough time was spent on any of the villains. In my opinion Harry Osborne as Green Goblin 2 worked the best, I think because we had all of Spider-Man 2 to build up to it. Sandman and Venom could easily have each had their own movies. As a side-note, I HATED how the alien symbiote was introduced.

But I still had a great time watching it and recommend it, but the movie would have been that much better if it had just lost a couple of sub-plots (I’m looking at you Gwen Stacey).

Doug, I’m with you.. if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Sam Raimi would have made a 10 out of 10 on his own I think.

STUPID EYES – THOU HAST OFFENDED ME ! ! !
*looks for a pointy stick*