Donner confirms Deadpool Movie is the REAL Deadpool
Posted by Rodneyon 12. 09. 2009in News Chat
Seems that Lauren Shuler Donner has been doing a lot of talking yesterday. After her brief touch on X-Men First Class (in which she reveals little more than it being a prequel) she starts to spill on the plans for Ryan Reynolds and a Deadpool film.
World of Superheroes quotes Donner:
“We’d kind of reboot it and make it the Deadpool that’s in the comics,” the producer told us, while adding that Wolverine costar Ryan Reynolds is still set to reprise the role despite his involvement with Warner Bros./DC’s Green Lantern film.“Yes, he would [return for it],” she said. “I’d like to see Deadpool, so we’ll see where we are moving forward on that. I’m hoping to make a movie out of Deadpool.”
It would be very difficult to “reboot” a character and use the same actor, so I question whether “reboot” is the right term to use here.
Personally for me, when I watched X-Men Origins: Wolverine I simply dismissed the strong implications that Weapon XI was Wade Wilson. (Weapon XI wasn’t even the same actor)
With some creative writing they could easily have Wilson still out there somewhere yet to take on the mantle of Deadpool. Reynold’s portrayal of Wade Wilson was dead on for the character. They really just need to pick up from there.
There is a lot of solo material they can use for Deadpool and pick up the movie where Wilson disappears from Wolverine
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good to know, hope it comes out well and has n R rating…
It won’t be an R and doesn’t need to be.
dismiss the whole idea of Deadpool ever having anything to do with Wolverine act like it never happened.
The fact that you still don’t admit they are the same based on having another actor play Weapon XI is ridiculous.
Movies do this all the time. They have an actor play the “Acting” part. Then when the character transforms or turned into something else. They get someone else who, has a better build, is more athletic, to play the part.
Then to disregard the fact that Wade was Weapon XI in the comics. Why wouldn’t he be Weapon XI in the movie? Even after all the dialog that blatantly tells you Weapon XI is Wade Wilson.
I don’t even see the problem with Weapon XI being Deadpool. Despite the fact that instead of gadgets they changed it so he gained other mutants powers in order to teleport and such. He’s even been decapitated in the comics and survived. The swords can just be ripped from his arms once he gains his senses.
Anyway, I’m glad they are using Reynolds again to play Deadpool. I thought he pulled the character off well. I’d like to see him break the fourth wall maybe once in the movie. As long as it’s done well.
My mistake he wasn’t actually Weapon XI in the comics. But he was apart of the Weapon X experiment.
Hollywood likes to change details here and there to help fit into the movie. I don’t think Weapon XI was so horrible though that they couldn’t come back from it and make Weapon XI the Deadpool we all know and love.
Deadpool in the comics and WeaponXI in the movie have NOTHING in common. There was no reason for them to even call him Deadpool.
Didn’t look like him, didn’t act like him, and didn’t need to be him.
The very fact that reynolds was not the actor for Deadpool is just a glimmer of hope that they can just creatively write a “Stryker thought he was, but they just used Deadpools healing factor experiment on XI” and that Wade is disfigured and ran off to be seen later.
There also was no reason for them to get a different actor. They could have painted up Reynolds the same way and have him do it but they didn’t.
There is an opportunity to “fix” this. Calling Weapon XI Deadpool was completely unneccesary and even they are fixing that with a reboot or ignoring it.
“Deadpool in the comics and WeaponXI in the movie have NOTHING in common. There was no reason for them to even call him Deadpool.”
You mean other then the fact that Deadpool was apart of the Weapon X experiment and got his healing abilities from Wolverine. An experiment that left him Horribly disfigured. His super agility, skills with a blade and the ability to teleport. The fact that his eye’s burned in a way that resembles Deadpools mask. Sure I could see how they are nothing alike.
“Didn’t look like him, didn’t act like him, and didn’t need to be him.”
Again horribly disfigured. The whole reason he wears a mask in the comics is to hide his disfigured face. The reason he didn’t act like him is because he was under the control of Striker. He had no control over himself. So how could he act like himself? OK, it didn’t need to be Deadpool. But then what is the point of calling him Deadpool and the dialog that leads us to believe is he Wade Wilson? If he wasn’t suppose to be Wade. Why not just leave it as Weapon XI with no references? Just some experiment striker was working on.
It’s because Weapon XI is suppose to be Deadpool from the comics. It would make less sense to say he wasn’t and say he ran off to be seen later in his own movies. How would he become disfigured? Where would he get his healing factor from? They could still creatively write a way for the Weapon XI from Origins to become Deadpool in his own movie. Some how his head is reattached to his body and he regenerates. He slices open his mouth and rips out the swords in his arm. Perfectly fine way to pick up where Origins left off.
“There also was no reason for them to get a different actor. They could have painted up Reynolds the same way and have him do it but they didn’t.”
Reynolds probably wouldn’t of been able to pull off all the flips and physical attacks in a believable way. Scott Adkins is a well established martial artist. Which is why the brought him in for Weapon XI. The same reason they used Ray Park to play Toad. Toad didn’t have many speaking scenes. Which is why they used him for the entire roll. Where as Wade had many and I don’t see them using Scott Adkins to pull off the Merc with a mouth. So they used Reynolds for the face and acting parts. Then brought in Adkins for the physical combat parts. I’m pretty sure they still used Reynolds for the up close shots of Weapon XI face. If not Adkins looks enough like Reynolds that with all the makeup you couldn’t tell a difference.
That’s fine if you want to make believe Weapon XI was not suppose to be Deadpool. But reality is that he was. For that movie Wade Wilson was meant to become Weapon XI and Weapon XI was meant to become Deadpool.
I kind of have to agree with you, Rob. As terrible a mistake it was to represent Weapon XI/Deadpool the way they did, there’s no denying the marks around the eyes and the healing ability (not to mention the 4th wall scene after the credits and wilverine’s line “so he finally found a way to shut you up”) all point at there being a relation.
I’m sure they’ll find a way to fix this problem.
OH MY GOD NO! End this discussion now please!
Rodney is beyond right! I could explain what Rodneys trying to say but it would take me too long.
You guys didnt read all the comics, and thats okay- youre making a usual mistake.
Please let it go. What you saw in Wolverine Origins was not supposed to be Deadpool
Rodney:
I know what you mean by “Tey shouldnt have called him deadpool” I really do
But they wanted to do it so that the non-die hard fans would think deadpools in the movie
If you guys knew the story you would know why its IMPOSSIBLE for deadpool to be in XMEN ORIGINS WOLVERINE
They only called him that as a cash grab
James, the comics are irrelevant to the movie continuity. It doesn’t matter at all what may or may not have happened regarding Deadpool’s origin in the comics, because a lot of stuff in the X-Men movies is completely different to the comics.
Face it, Deadpool, Wade Wilson and Weapon XI are all the same person in the X-Men movie universe.
How much more blatant could they have made it that this was indeed Wade? Wolverine recognized him. He clearly stated it was Wade. The Weapon X program gave Wade all his powers and disfigures him, thus progressing the character toward his comic counterpart. The burns around his eyes mimic Deadpool’s mask. He broke the 4th wall in the stinger. The action figure of Weapon XI is called Deadpool, indicating that it is certainly the intention of the film for that character to be Deadpool.
On the other hand, nothing was intentionally written in the film to indicate this might not have been Wade. Had the idea been for there to be some doubt, Stryker would have perhaps told Logan it was Wade, only for Logan to not recognize his scent. But there’s nothing written in to indicate any doubt. If you doubt it, you’re imagining things that are not there.
They can’t reboot the character if they still want it to tie in with the X-Men films. His origin has been explained. They just need to try salvaging what they have now. It shouldn’t be that hard, because as much as his origin might have sucked, it has fortunately left us with a scarred, power gifted Deadpool. Instead of rebooting, and telling his origin all over again, they could spend 2 minutes explaining how he gets rid of the arm blades and lazer eyes, and chooses to wear a mask, then move on with an all new story and not bother touching on the origin again.
James,
There is enough similarities between Deadpool in the comics and Weapon XI that there is no doubt they are one in the same. I’ve already said this but Hollywood likes to change things in order to make it fit into the story. What you see and read in the comics isn’t exactly what you get in the movies. Through out the X-Men trilogy. This was proven over and over again.
I think Reynolds said it best with “I don’t even look at it like I play Deadpool in this movie. I really think I more or less play Wade Wilson, and I’m playing the creature that will eventually become Deadpool but in this movie it’s his newly formed version….so to speak.”
So for you or anyone to have any doubt that Weapon XI is meant to be Deadpool is absurd. But as the article says. They plan to reboot the character and make him more like he is in the comics. So his movies won’t take after Origins. Even though they could if they wanted to.
I cant carry this converstion if you guys didnt read the comic books
I already explained this twice in 2 different deadpool related posts in a long thorough explanation
Im not taking sides here, im not being a dick…its a FACT by the BOOK, i agree with Rodney, but because i have proof, its not an opinion. Rodney is right you guys
Bottom line is- Deadpool doesnt excist until 3 years after Wolvie loses his memory
….but we’re not talking about the books…we’re talking about the movie.
..but..um..okay :-)
How does the comics prove to the world that Weapon XI was not Deadpool in the movie?
You say Deadpool doesn’t exist during this time. Which is untrue. He exist as Wade Wilson. For the movie they made Wade Wilson become Weapon XI. For whatever reason Striker calls him Deadpool. So Weapon XI is Deadpool. For the movie. Not the comics. No official character has taken the title of Weapon XI in the comics. At least not that I know of. I know Wade doesn’t take the title “Deadpool” until he is thrown into a government facility for failed superhuman operatives. But that has nothing to do with the character in the movie.
You seem to be a bit confused and have a hard time distinguishing the movie from the comics. I’ve already explained that Hollywood change certain facts in order to make things fit with the story.
What Rodney is saying is that Weapon XI was not Wade Wilson in the movie and that Weapon XI from the movie and Deadpool from the comics are nothing alike. Which is true and false. But it doesn’t change the fact that for the movie Weapon XI is Wade Wilson. Since Wade Wilson becomes Deadpool. Weapon XI and Deadpool are the same damn person. Not 2 separate people. GAAAHHHH!!!
@ Rob
My head just exploded, lol.
I feel like I’m in math class (if AB = CD and CD = EF…then AB = EF!)
@Rob, we know that the movie is clear about WeaponXI being Deadpool, and that it was supposed to be Wade Wilson that they tried all the genetic experiments on. (and there is no WeaponXI in the comics)
We know.
We are just trying to remove it from memory because its the farthest thing from making sense that the fans wanted. There is no shred of commonality between WeaponXI and the PERFECT presentation they gave us of the man who would become Deadpool with Wade Wilson.
They see their mistake and I just hope instead of rebooting it and therefore removing Deadpool from the current canon, that they simply use some creative storytelling to reveal that wasn’t Wade Wilson and WeaponXI is a different character.
@ Rodney
i’ve only read a few of the comics with Deadpool, bit even a noob like me knew they shouldve abortioned the hell out of “Deadpool” the way they produced him.
..that being said..
@ Hazmat
Not all of us are in your fan club watching you fight on behalf of all that is comics. So forgive us If we don’t cite your arguments in detail or refer to you in any way. Also, it would’ve been more effective leaving a link to the page where you left your explanation so we could at least read it (as opposed to just leaving a small rant). Don’t be an IMDBer and act all high and mighty. It’s a movie. Rar.
I agree with Rodney, let’s hope they just find a way to creare beloved Deadpool the way we were meant to see him.
TY
And youre right, its not a book, its a movie.
But its based on the books…i just think they should follow the basic origins and maybe change some obvious irrelevant stuff.
Lets just hope it turns out good =]
Hazmat
I agree. I don’t understand why studios butcher stuff for a quick buck. It loses credibility among the fans, from what I keep reading.
Don’t they or shouldn’t they have a panel of hand picked fans who will view the movie for the sole purpose of giving the people in charge an idea of whether or not they’re on the right track? It vexes me.
No, they should make sure that the material is good before the movie gets made. Thats why they need to check the script.
They need to have a die hard fan read the sript and APROVE of it.
Like a counsel of die hard fans, the epitome of fandom….a government of god that looks down at comic book movies and says which should happen and which wont….a group of 5 royal die hards that know it all about comic books yet understand neccesary changes for movies…a royal kingdom.
The five.
Picked by the fans themselves and tested by a 300000 page nerd test that they must ace.
Yes, i actually like your idea, a lot.
O.O
What…the fuck…
My head exploded again. There’s nothing THAT badass.
…except maybe the part in New Moon where Edward and Bella–..
nevermind.
This whole topic is pretty stupid- there is the comic book version of Deadpool and the movie version. The two are different. There are things in the movie that are different than the comics and vice versa, just like the movie version of rogue is different than the comic book version of rogue.
The truth is (and I dare anyone to argue against this) that the COMIC BOOK version of the character is the real version. They came first, have the most in depth story and are the original depiction of the character. The comic book version of Deadpool is the real version and if the movie alters ANYTHING about his story then it is NOT the real deadpool, it is an adapted or allusion to the character.
The origins version of deadpool is such a departure that is definitely not the real deadpool- it is a very loose interpretation of the character and that is that. They have altered too much of his story for that character to remain the true version of deadpool- he may as well be one of Marvel’s alternate universe deadpool (like in age of apocalypse or Zombie version or something)
We’ve kinda already established this…you…kinda just nerd-raged for nothing.
Thanks for the morning reading though! :-)
Ty says:
September 13, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Hazmat
I agree. I don’t understand why studios butcher stuff for a quick buck. It loses credibility among the fans, from what I keep reading.
Don’t they or shouldn’t they have a panel of hand picked fans who will view the movie for the sole purpose of giving the people in charge an idea of whether or not they’re on the right track? It vexes me.
…they do have a fan that reviews the scripts of marvel movies…his name is Stan Lee….
much more interested in his interpretation of green lantern but i guess this is good news for all the people that liked him in wolverine.
This is great news. Either by disregarding the Weapon XI bullshit at the ass end of Wolverine, or just by properly rebooting it, I’d still be pretty jazzed to see a Deadpool movie with Reynolds.
haha…..ass end
I am glad to hear that they are open minded about the deadpool movie, and not dead set on continuing with what was left of deadpool at the end of wolverine movie.
I don’t read the comics. So this opinion is from a regular movie joe, but I loved the stuff with reynolds and hated the stuff with duct tape face.
I swear the world I’m living in is Bizarro World. I fail to grasp how *anyone* could think Ryan Reynolds ‘pulled off’ or ‘owned’ Deadpool in Wolverine. He was HORRIBLE!!!
In face, he’s one of the worst action actors I’ve EVER seen. I have yet to see a single movie where he breaks a sweat and I like it, or like his part in it. I think he ruins action movies.
I don’t think he’s a bad comedic actor, but he just can’t pull off serious roles. He needs to stick to lame romantic comedies and chick flicks.
I think the word we are looking for here is ret-con. Personally, this is how I would handle it.
In the end credits (first stinger) of the film, Stryker is questioned for the murder of the Military officer. There was only one other person in the room. Wade Wilson. Now…the Weapon XI seen at the end of the film wasn’t Wade wilson. It was a clone.
That’s why Wolverine called him Wade…but in the form of a question. He wasn’t sure. The “real” Wade, now shows up. Fights Weapon XI for rights for the name Deadpool.
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I also think, as much as I liked the film- that Weapon XI, (Deadpool or no Deadpool) was horrible. Imagine if it was Omega Red who popped out of that expieriment…or better yet The Broodor The Phlanx
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As long as Fox retains the license, we will be getting awful shitty versions of these characters.
End of Story.
Wolverine was the first Xfilm I was disappointed with.
Well get ready for more!
this is a great movie, there should be a 2nd movie about this movie and the actors are great, nice job
Um how about he wakes up in the rubble gets his head on straight and has no idea that he has all these new abilities besides Logan’s healing. by accident finds his arm blades cuts open his mouth then break them off. The other mutant powers could ware off due to logans powers over taking them and eliminating them from his system. Its not that difficult and if the scientists can give him powers i’m sure they could remove them. There is so much you can do people just use your imagination. And all the other mistakes in the x-men films could be false imagery or false memories implanted by pro-x or some other mutant behind the scenes. then they can link all the family trees together like sabertooth to nightcrawler and rouge to mystique juggernaut to pro-x ect But to be honest I loved the fact they killed of Cyclopes he was one character i hated growing up he was such a tool!
well after what i had wrote i re-watched XMOW and the very end of the film instead of logan in the Bar I have The ending with Dead pool opening his eyes saying SHHHHHHHHHH so i had never seen that I was only aware of the Logan ending and only a rumour about there being another one :P so People don’t worry too much about mr wade he will be back to himself
I don’t think it would matter if the film followed the comic or not. We all may follow and love the comic deeply but the majority of the planet have never opened a comic in there whole lives. The movies are more main stream and it makes finacial sense to please the majority.
I’m sorry, as long as Fox is in charge of this I’m not going to trust any “promises” they make regarding their Marvel properties.
I dont understand all the Fox hate. You make it sound like they are the only studio allowed to make bad movies.
Fox makes plenty of TV shows and Movies that are great too.
That may be. But they have done a horrible job with Marvel’s properties. The original two X-Men films were exceptions, but the rest have been sub-par.