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	<title>Comments on: Things I don&#8217;t Think we will see in Transformers</title>
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		<title>By: Calviin</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2009/06/things-i-dont-think-we-will-see-in-transformers#comment-208540</link>
		<dc:creator>Calviin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if you did a survey asking fans the following question, you would find Megatron is not as kind as you think. I did so myself with a few dozen people found a landslide decision. I asked as follows:

Would Megatron shoot an ally to get a clear shot at an Autobot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you did a survey asking fans the following question, you would find Megatron is not as kind as you think. I did so myself with a few dozen people found a landslide decision. I asked as follows:</p>
<p>Would Megatron shoot an ally to get a clear shot at an Autobot?</p>
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		<title>By: Calviin</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2009/06/things-i-dont-think-we-will-see-in-transformers#comment-208538</link>
		<dc:creator>Calviin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. I understand that Luke had more going for him than just his farm boy skills. He had all that you mentioned. But yet still similarly, Sam would have more than his school boy charm to help him. Autobots and decepticons could work together in their common interest of continued existence. I don&#039;t feel I need to flesh out an entire script to prove my point, but if the decepticons were to try and summon Unicron in the expectation that they could control him as a weapon, only to find that they too become victims, then they work together to defeat him. Maybe they know or learn of some achilles heel that he has. Maybe the decpticons know the weakness but only one of the autbots can abuse it. Maybe the leaders of each of the side (decepticons and autobots) were instilled long ago during their creation by Primus with a key to stopping Unicron. Working together to stop a greater evil is easily a classic plot device and often successful. Hell, some of here at TMB had hoped that The Fallen would need to be stopped by Megatron and Optimus working together. The Fallen himself is canonically supposed to be Unicron&#039;s number one follower which should show two things. First, they&#039;re already one step away from Unicron, and two, he is one of the original thirteen Transformers created by Primus. He&#039;s already more powerful than the Autobots but they manage to defeat him anyway.

I compare Unicron to the Deathstar because the Deathstar was supposed to be the most destructive force in the galaxy. So is Unicron. The Deathstar was easily defeated NOT because Luke had anything particularly superior to it, but because he learned of the weakness and was given the tool to abuse it. Watch me rewrite with only two changes. &quot;Unicron was easily defeated NOT because Sam had anything particularly superior to it, but because he learned of the weakness and was given the tool to abuse it.&quot; See how easy that is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. I understand that Luke had more going for him than just his farm boy skills. He had all that you mentioned. But yet still similarly, Sam would have more than his school boy charm to help him. Autobots and decepticons could work together in their common interest of continued existence. I don&#8217;t feel I need to flesh out an entire script to prove my point, but if the decepticons were to try and summon Unicron in the expectation that they could control him as a weapon, only to find that they too become victims, then they work together to defeat him. Maybe they know or learn of some achilles heel that he has. Maybe the decpticons know the weakness but only one of the autbots can abuse it. Maybe the leaders of each of the side (decepticons and autobots) were instilled long ago during their creation by Primus with a key to stopping Unicron. Working together to stop a greater evil is easily a classic plot device and often successful. Hell, some of here at TMB had hoped that The Fallen would need to be stopped by Megatron and Optimus working together. The Fallen himself is canonically supposed to be Unicron&#8217;s number one follower which should show two things. First, they&#8217;re already one step away from Unicron, and two, he is one of the original thirteen Transformers created by Primus. He&#8217;s already more powerful than the Autobots but they manage to defeat him anyway.</p>
<p>I compare Unicron to the Deathstar because the Deathstar was supposed to be the most destructive force in the galaxy. So is Unicron. The Deathstar was easily defeated NOT because Luke had anything particularly superior to it, but because he learned of the weakness and was given the tool to abuse it. Watch me rewrite with only two changes. &#8220;Unicron was easily defeated NOT because Sam had anything particularly superior to it, but because he learned of the weakness and was given the tool to abuse it.&#8221; See how easy that is?</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2009/06/things-i-dont-think-we-will-see-in-transformers#comment-208519</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John doesnt have to comment on every post made on this site, as well this topic is not specifically about TF2, but the franchise in general.

We already know Grimlock, Galvatron and Unicron are not in part 2, even without seeing the movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John doesnt have to comment on every post made on this site, as well this topic is not specifically about TF2, but the franchise in general.</p>
<p>We already know Grimlock, Galvatron and Unicron are not in part 2, even without seeing the movie.</p>
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		<title>By: DON</title>
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		<dc:creator>DON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is funny how John hasn&#039;t commented on thip topic.

If i am not mistaken he has already watched this movie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funny how John hasn&#8217;t commented on thip topic.</p>
<p>If i am not mistaken he has already watched this movie?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John can&#039;t post his review til opening day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John can&#8217;t post his review til opening day.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2009/06/things-i-dont-think-we-will-see-in-transformers#comment-208420</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calviin, the Star Wars reference is a little inaccurate. 

That &quot;farm boy&quot; didnt just randomly on his own decide he suddenly had the power to defeat this unstopppable force.  

-The spies and engineers of the Rebellion worked hard to find a weakness.  

-Any one of those trained and seasoned fighter pilots could have made it to the end of that trench.  That was the point of the attack. 

-The Rebels were exploiting a weakness and it is a common theme in Star Wars that the Empire&#039;s greatest weakness is their overconfidence (they have 1831 TIE Fighters, 2904 TIE Assault Craft, 806 TIE Boarding Craft 1384 Scouts Ships on the Death Star but when 30 Rebel ships attack they only send out 30 to fight them?)

-Luke didn&#039;t do it on his own.  He would have been shot down like so many of his flight wing were if Han hadn&#039;t returned from his greedy retreat to take a cheap shot at Vader thereby clearing his way.

The David and Goliath motif is clear in Star Wars, as it was in Transformers.  But to compare that to Unicron like you have is not very accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calviin, the Star Wars reference is a little inaccurate. </p>
<p>That &#8220;farm boy&#8221; didnt just randomly on his own decide he suddenly had the power to defeat this unstopppable force.  </p>
<p>-The spies and engineers of the Rebellion worked hard to find a weakness.  </p>
<p>-Any one of those trained and seasoned fighter pilots could have made it to the end of that trench.  That was the point of the attack. </p>
<p>-The Rebels were exploiting a weakness and it is a common theme in Star Wars that the Empire&#8217;s greatest weakness is their overconfidence (they have 1831 TIE Fighters, 2904 TIE Assault Craft, 806 TIE Boarding Craft 1384 Scouts Ships on the Death Star but when 30 Rebel ships attack they only send out 30 to fight them?)</p>
<p>-Luke didn&#8217;t do it on his own.  He would have been shot down like so many of his flight wing were if Han hadn&#8217;t returned from his greedy retreat to take a cheap shot at Vader thereby clearing his way.</p>
<p>The David and Goliath motif is clear in Star Wars, as it was in Transformers.  But to compare that to Unicron like you have is not very accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2009/06/things-i-dont-think-we-will-see-in-transformers#comment-208418</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  He woudlnt.

There is a clear change in Megatron when he becomes Galvatron.  His personality is a far less controlled and far more dangerous type of evil.

Megatron is a military leader, Galvatron is just a loose cannon. Literally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  He woudlnt.</p>
<p>There is a clear change in Megatron when he becomes Galvatron.  His personality is a far less controlled and far more dangerous type of evil.</p>
<p>Megatron is a military leader, Galvatron is just a loose cannon. Literally.</p>
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		<title>By: Calviin</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2009/06/things-i-dont-think-we-will-see-in-transformers#comment-208417</link>
		<dc:creator>Calviin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have liked to see Magnus.</description>
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		<title>By: Calviin</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2009/06/things-i-dont-think-we-will-see-in-transformers#comment-208415</link>
		<dc:creator>Calviin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also for Dinobots, and I will be repeating myself from a previous post, but they can clearly work for the same reason that Scorpinok works.

Does Scorpinok change? No. Why? He doesn&#039;t need to. He&#039;s not trying to hide amongst the humans. The Decepticons do not need him to hide amongst the humans. He works just fine for them not being disguised and instead being kept in areas where humans won&#039;t find him.

The same can be true for dinobots. They can hide in some jungle region until the autobots need their help. The autobots keep them around because they sometimes need the heavy lifting.

You get so fixated on needing a reason for their disguise as dinosaurs. Ask this, why does Scorpinok look like a scorpion. Do they ever explain that in the movie? No. Why does ravage look like a cat? Also not explained. They don&#039;t need to explain it.

It&#039;s true that Scorpinok does not look exactly like a scorpion in the same way that Starscream looked exactly like a jet. Maybe Scorpinok was still in his cybertronian form which happens to look like a scorpion and his name happens to sound like the word scorpion. Ok, I guess we can easily suspend that kind of disbelief and don&#039;t feel the need to examine it that closely. And I guess the same can be true for Ravage. Maybe a cat like look is his natural cybertronian form and it just happens to resemble our world&#039;s jungle cats. So why can&#039;t Grimlock&#039;s cybertronian form just happen to look like our world&#039;s T-rex? He doesn&#039;t have to look exactly like a T-rex, but just resemble one like Scorpinok resembles a scorpion and Ravage resembles a cat.

Now, we have dinobots whose natural cybertronian forms just happens to resemble our world&#039;s dinosaurs and they never interact with humans because they hide in remote areas where humans aren&#039;t common.
Yeah that&#039;s much harder to believe than Scorpinok and Ravage who happen to look like a large scorpion and large cat and they never interact with humans because they hide in remote areas where humans aren&#039;t common.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also for Dinobots, and I will be repeating myself from a previous post, but they can clearly work for the same reason that Scorpinok works.</p>
<p>Does Scorpinok change? No. Why? He doesn&#8217;t need to. He&#8217;s not trying to hide amongst the humans. The Decepticons do not need him to hide amongst the humans. He works just fine for them not being disguised and instead being kept in areas where humans won&#8217;t find him.</p>
<p>The same can be true for dinobots. They can hide in some jungle region until the autobots need their help. The autobots keep them around because they sometimes need the heavy lifting.</p>
<p>You get so fixated on needing a reason for their disguise as dinosaurs. Ask this, why does Scorpinok look like a scorpion. Do they ever explain that in the movie? No. Why does ravage look like a cat? Also not explained. They don&#8217;t need to explain it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that Scorpinok does not look exactly like a scorpion in the same way that Starscream looked exactly like a jet. Maybe Scorpinok was still in his cybertronian form which happens to look like a scorpion and his name happens to sound like the word scorpion. Ok, I guess we can easily suspend that kind of disbelief and don&#8217;t feel the need to examine it that closely. And I guess the same can be true for Ravage. Maybe a cat like look is his natural cybertronian form and it just happens to resemble our world&#8217;s jungle cats. So why can&#8217;t Grimlock&#8217;s cybertronian form just happen to look like our world&#8217;s T-rex? He doesn&#8217;t have to look exactly like a T-rex, but just resemble one like Scorpinok resembles a scorpion and Ravage resembles a cat.</p>
<p>Now, we have dinobots whose natural cybertronian forms just happens to resemble our world&#8217;s dinosaurs and they never interact with humans because they hide in remote areas where humans aren&#8217;t common.<br />
Yeah that&#8217;s much harder to believe than Scorpinok and Ravage who happen to look like a large scorpion and large cat and they never interact with humans because they hide in remote areas where humans aren&#8217;t common.</p>
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		<title>By: Calviin</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2009/06/things-i-dont-think-we-will-see-in-transformers#comment-208414</link>
		<dc:creator>Calviin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He is irrational and rage driven and would shoot an ally to get a clear shot.&quot;
I am pretty sure Megatron would do that too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He is irrational and rage driven and would shoot an ally to get a clear shot.&#8221;<br />
I am pretty sure Megatron would do that too.</p>
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