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	<title>Comments on: Prop 8: The Musical</title>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/prop-8-the-musical#comment-174914</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were indifferent on the subject you would not have voted.

CHOOSING to vote against it is condemnation.  Its not your stamp of approval, but your choice to vote against it was a stamp of disproval.

The entire motion to reverse a law that was already permitted and allowed in your state and others and in the entirety of Canada that has proven to be harmless was deliberately shot down by the people of California.

It will be turned back eventually, once clear minds prevail.  And they all those who voted against will have wasted their time disapproving over something that has no impact on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were indifferent on the subject you would not have voted.</p>
<p>CHOOSING to vote against it is condemnation.  Its not your stamp of approval, but your choice to vote against it was a stamp of disproval.</p>
<p>The entire motion to reverse a law that was already permitted and allowed in your state and others and in the entirety of Canada that has proven to be harmless was deliberately shot down by the people of California.</p>
<p>It will be turned back eventually, once clear minds prevail.  And they all those who voted against will have wasted their time disapproving over something that has no impact on them.</p>
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		<title>By: gkwilley</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/prop-8-the-musical#comment-174797</link>
		<dc:creator>gkwilley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but a as someone who is against homosexual marriage I do not hate those who choose to practice this lifestyle.  I will not however vote to put my stamp of approval on it.  Do not confuse this lack of condonment with hate.  I hold no hate in my heart for you.  Perhaps that is why you are confused.  If you don&#039;t agree with the way someone lives their life do you hate them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but a as someone who is against homosexual marriage I do not hate those who choose to practice this lifestyle.  I will not however vote to put my stamp of approval on it.  Do not confuse this lack of condonment with hate.  I hold no hate in my heart for you.  Perhaps that is why you are confused.  If you don&#8217;t agree with the way someone lives their life do you hate them?</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/prop-8-the-musical#comment-174739</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Which has nothing to do with the American government.&quot;

- which Jesus ALSO points out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Which has nothing to do with the American government.&#8221;</p>
<p>- which Jesus ALSO points out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/prop-8-the-musical#comment-174721</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Would Jesus condone Gay marriage? No. He wouldn’t.&quot;

Which has nothing to do with the American government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Would Jesus condone Gay marriage? No. He wouldn’t.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which has nothing to do with the American government.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/prop-8-the-musical#comment-174720</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think all that is on stake is the redefinition of marriage? Are you shitting me? Read this for one small example of why you are wrong:

http://tragedyoftheage.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/were-still-at-this-point/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think all that is on stake is the redefinition of marriage? Are you shitting me? Read this for one small example of why you are wrong:</p>
<p><a href="http://tragedyoftheage.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/were-still-at-this-point/" rel="nofollow">http://tragedyoftheage.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/were-still-at-this-point/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/prop-8-the-musical#comment-174689</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually no, I dont feel that Darren is right about the Jesus thing.  In the video the Jesus character does nothing more than illustrate that the pro crowd is &quot;picking and chosing&quot; what parts of the bible to follow.  He does say he doesn&#039;t agree with homosexuality.  

Its not a slam at all on Jesus.  Silly as it may sound Jesus is properly portrayed for the purposes of this skit.

Jesus hung out with prostitutes and tax collectors and was criticized for it.  His answer was that he did not endorse their sin, but he still loved them.

And I am sorry Chriton, but if you can agree that they should have all the rights any couple has, but not allow marriage then you are a hypocrite.  Adoption is another non issue.  Your assertment that a child NEEDS a mother and a father is silly.  Do they benefit?  Sure.  But they benefit from ANY stable home life regardless of who provides it.  Its not an issue of male or female parents.  

The point is that it DOESNT bother anyone to allow them to marry.  It doesnt hurt anyone.  It doesnt change any one else&#039;s status.  

Its just ignorant to say they can have it all, but not have it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually no, I dont feel that Darren is right about the Jesus thing.  In the video the Jesus character does nothing more than illustrate that the pro crowd is &#8220;picking and chosing&#8221; what parts of the bible to follow.  He does say he doesn&#8217;t agree with homosexuality.  </p>
<p>Its not a slam at all on Jesus.  Silly as it may sound Jesus is properly portrayed for the purposes of this skit.</p>
<p>Jesus hung out with prostitutes and tax collectors and was criticized for it.  His answer was that he did not endorse their sin, but he still loved them.</p>
<p>And I am sorry Chriton, but if you can agree that they should have all the rights any couple has, but not allow marriage then you are a hypocrite.  Adoption is another non issue.  Your assertment that a child NEEDS a mother and a father is silly.  Do they benefit?  Sure.  But they benefit from ANY stable home life regardless of who provides it.  Its not an issue of male or female parents.  </p>
<p>The point is that it DOESNT bother anyone to allow them to marry.  It doesnt hurt anyone.  It doesnt change any one else&#8217;s status.  </p>
<p>Its just ignorant to say they can have it all, but not have it all.</p>
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		<title>By: The Chriton Leperchaun</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/prop-8-the-musical#comment-174673</link>
		<dc:creator>The Chriton Leperchaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think darren might be right on the Jesus part. anyway my personal opinion on homosexuals? i dont really care. i think they should have just about all the rights of a regular couple except for getting married. marriage as a term for as long as we all have known is between a man and a women. marriage doesnt really change anything from a domestic partnership. its essentially the same thing. just a term difference. i personally just dont think the term applies to homosexuals. i really have no issue with anything else (other than adoption mainly because i think kids need a male and female mother/father leadership and guidence in their lives. men should teach their sons to be respectable and to take care of their family and such while mothers should teach their daughters to reach higher in society but also to take care of their famly in their own way. anyway i just think kids need male/female influence in their lives and thats why im against gay adoption. other than that stuff they can do whatever they want as far as im concerned. im a strong advocate of giving them the same rights as a married couple such as hospital visitation and stuff. and me personally... i prefer not to be around gay people but i can easily tolerate them, i know several who are nice people and we say hello and all that. as long as they dont bother me and i dont bother them its all fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think darren might be right on the Jesus part. anyway my personal opinion on homosexuals? i dont really care. i think they should have just about all the rights of a regular couple except for getting married. marriage as a term for as long as we all have known is between a man and a women. marriage doesnt really change anything from a domestic partnership. its essentially the same thing. just a term difference. i personally just dont think the term applies to homosexuals. i really have no issue with anything else (other than adoption mainly because i think kids need a male and female mother/father leadership and guidence in their lives. men should teach their sons to be respectable and to take care of their family and such while mothers should teach their daughters to reach higher in society but also to take care of their famly in their own way. anyway i just think kids need male/female influence in their lives and thats why im against gay adoption. other than that stuff they can do whatever they want as far as im concerned. im a strong advocate of giving them the same rights as a married couple such as hospital visitation and stuff. and me personally&#8230; i prefer not to be around gay people but i can easily tolerate them, i know several who are nice people and we say hello and all that. as long as they dont bother me and i dont bother them its all fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren J Seeley</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/prop-8-the-musical#comment-174659</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren J Seeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodney, it is a Jesus slam, (if not on Christians themselves). Jesus may have spoken out against hypocrites in his day, but that was in regards to those who corrupted the teachings of God and manipulated the people for their own gain. According to the Bible, the public who disagreed with the Pharisees didn&#039;t speak out for fear of being kicked out of places of worship.

But we are putting this in another context. I&#039;m sorry, Rod. It is. If Jesus was the son of God (and I and others believe by faith that he is) or even just a prophet of God-  God&#039;s word clearly says that he (God) is against homosexuality. Granted, Jesus would have reached out to the gay community since he preached to the tax collectors, the prostitutes the poor, the blind and the downtrodden.

Would Jesus condone Gay marriage? No. He wouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodney, it is a Jesus slam, (if not on Christians themselves). Jesus may have spoken out against hypocrites in his day, but that was in regards to those who corrupted the teachings of God and manipulated the people for their own gain. According to the Bible, the public who disagreed with the Pharisees didn&#8217;t speak out for fear of being kicked out of places of worship.</p>
<p>But we are putting this in another context. I&#8217;m sorry, Rod. It is. If Jesus was the son of God (and I and others believe by faith that he is) or even just a prophet of God-  God&#8217;s word clearly says that he (God) is against homosexuality. Granted, Jesus would have reached out to the gay community since he preached to the tax collectors, the prostitutes the poor, the blind and the downtrodden.</p>
<p>Would Jesus condone Gay marriage? No. He wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: sfsilver</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/prop-8-the-musical#comment-174618</link>
		<dc:creator>sfsilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how the opposition to same sex marriage harps on this &quot;the voters have spoken&quot; argument, when it is entirely likely that the Supreme Court will, as is their constitutional role, interpret the vote as unconstitutional.  There is no concept in our system that says anything that passes being put to a popular vote becomes law and is shielded from constitutional review.  The entire concept of &quot;activist&quot; judges demonstrates a complete lack of understanding about the separation of powers, the structure of our government, and the role of the courts.  The courts by design are not beholden to popular vote because the framers of the constitution knew that lawmakers and the public would often be tempted to pass laws through either legislative process or popular vote that would violate basic constitutional principles and the rights of other citizens.

Equal protection under the law is a foundational constitutional right in the California constitution.  The Prop 8 vote is egregious because it tries to circumvent that foundational right and remove equal protection from a single group.  It is unique in American history in that it is the first time a single group had an existing court vetted constitutional right stripped away by popular vote.  It has opened a can of worms that if allowed to stand lays the groundwork for popular votes to remove the rights of any group who is unpopular (Muslims, immigrants, racial groups, political groups, etc..)

I know that those opposed to same sex marriage also like to pretend that their position isn&#039;t discriminatory, or bigoted or founded in hate, but that is a personal delusion they are living under which allows them to sleep at night.  They can pretend they aren&#039;t hateful, but those of us on the receiving end of their &quot;beliefs&quot; can assure them that if it smells like hate, looks like hate, tastes like hate and feels like hate - then there&#039;s a 99.9% probability that is is indeed hate.

These people are on the wrong side of history and will look as foolish as the bigots in the south who shouted ugly things at black school children as they entered newly integrated schools (another triumph of the Supreme Court).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how the opposition to same sex marriage harps on this &#8220;the voters have spoken&#8221; argument, when it is entirely likely that the Supreme Court will, as is their constitutional role, interpret the vote as unconstitutional.  There is no concept in our system that says anything that passes being put to a popular vote becomes law and is shielded from constitutional review.  The entire concept of &#8220;activist&#8221; judges demonstrates a complete lack of understanding about the separation of powers, the structure of our government, and the role of the courts.  The courts by design are not beholden to popular vote because the framers of the constitution knew that lawmakers and the public would often be tempted to pass laws through either legislative process or popular vote that would violate basic constitutional principles and the rights of other citizens.</p>
<p>Equal protection under the law is a foundational constitutional right in the California constitution.  The Prop 8 vote is egregious because it tries to circumvent that foundational right and remove equal protection from a single group.  It is unique in American history in that it is the first time a single group had an existing court vetted constitutional right stripped away by popular vote.  It has opened a can of worms that if allowed to stand lays the groundwork for popular votes to remove the rights of any group who is unpopular (Muslims, immigrants, racial groups, political groups, etc..)</p>
<p>I know that those opposed to same sex marriage also like to pretend that their position isn&#8217;t discriminatory, or bigoted or founded in hate, but that is a personal delusion they are living under which allows them to sleep at night.  They can pretend they aren&#8217;t hateful, but those of us on the receiving end of their &#8220;beliefs&#8221; can assure them that if it smells like hate, looks like hate, tastes like hate and feels like hate &#8211; then there&#8217;s a 99.9% probability that is is indeed hate.</p>
<p>These people are on the wrong side of history and will look as foolish as the bigots in the south who shouted ugly things at black school children as they entered newly integrated schools (another triumph of the Supreme Court).</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Nagy</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/prop-8-the-musical#comment-174590</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Nagy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Carl

I support Polygamy always and forever.

3 wives FTW.</description>
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<p>I support Polygamy always and forever.</p>
<p>3 wives FTW.</p>
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