Comments on: Johnny Depp And Philip Seymour Hoffman Are NOT The Riddler and The Peguin http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin The Official Home of Correct Movie Opinions Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:43:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: finaljoe http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160757 finaljoe Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:37:40 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160757 The Penguin portrayed as a James Cagney like gangster would be perfect for Nolan's Batman. The Penguin portrayed as a James Cagney like gangster would be perfect for Nolan’s Batman.

]]> By: rick http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160646 rick Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:11:38 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160646 my God, please no more penguin... riddler would be okay since Jim Carrey screwed that one up, but bring in someone like the Mad Hatter or Clayface my God, please no more penguin… riddler would be okay since Jim Carrey screwed that one up, but bring in someone like the Mad Hatter or Clayface

]]> By: Ricochet http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160602 Ricochet Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:24:03 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160602 As I've said in other posts I would love to see those 2 in Nolan's Batman universe but there was no doubt that they talk of those 2 was bullshit. I love the Zodiac, John Doe and Jigsaw angel since that's what I've been saying all along. Hans Gruber is a great villain but going that direction IMO makes the Riddler a Joker knock-off and if he's more of a Gruber type then why and where would the Riddles come from? I just think the best way to go in this real world setting of this Batman incarnation for him not to be a 2nd rate Joker is that he's someone who's extremely narcissistic that's out to prove he's smarter then the Gotham police and Batman to the point that he provides the information to to what he's doing and who he if they can unravel his riddles in the form of simple riddles to ciphers and whatnot. When I say like the Zodiac I don't necessarily mean the he's a serial killer or maybe just a serial killer. The way I would make the Riddler is that I would have clues and riddles that are aimed at or given to Batman and the police about what's going to come and if they aren't solved in time there will be death and/or destruction if they don't and if that happens not only is there the natural guilt but the media pressure on the police and Batman will grow and they will question Batman's worth. Going in another direction just doesn't make any sense to me in the Nolan setting and staying true to the green suits with ? is goofy and not what Nolan Universe is about. The Riddler I want is someone is not just another killer and/or terrorist and may somewhat sound like the Joker he's doing it for much different reasons. Where the Joker did what he did like they say in TDK is just to see the world burn whereas The Riddler is about proving that he's better than Batman and the police with him it's about the name Riddler being out there outsmarting them. It's about fame and being remembered. The way I see him is that he would leave riddles about what people he's going to kill, what he's going to steal, what building he's going to blow up etc. Some would be simple while other are complicated and multi-layered and then some that a part of a bigger puzzle. I would like to someone like Sam Rockwell or maybe someone like Adrien Brody. As I’ve said in other posts I would love to see those 2 in Nolan’s Batman universe but there was no doubt that they talk of those 2 was bullshit.

I love the Zodiac, John Doe and Jigsaw angel since that’s what I’ve been saying all along.

Hans Gruber is a great villain but going that direction IMO makes the Riddler a Joker knock-off and if he’s more of a Gruber type then why and where would the Riddles come from?

I just think the best way to go in this real world setting of this Batman incarnation for him not to be a 2nd rate Joker is that he’s someone who’s extremely narcissistic that’s out to prove he’s smarter then the Gotham police and Batman to the point that he provides the information to to what he’s doing and who he if they can unravel his riddles in the form of simple riddles to ciphers and whatnot.

When I say like the Zodiac I don’t necessarily mean the he’s a serial killer or maybe just a serial killer. The way I would make the Riddler is that I would have clues and riddles that are aimed at or given to Batman and the police about what’s going to come and if they aren’t solved in time there will be death and/or destruction if they don’t and if that happens not only is there the natural guilt but the media pressure on the police and Batman will grow and they will question Batman’s worth.

Going in another direction just doesn’t make any sense to me in the Nolan setting and staying true to the green suits with ? is goofy and not what Nolan Universe is about.

The Riddler I want is someone is not just another killer and/or terrorist and may somewhat sound like the Joker he’s doing it for much different reasons. Where the Joker did what he did like they say in TDK is just to see the world burn whereas The Riddler is about proving that he’s better than Batman and the police with him it’s about the name Riddler being out there outsmarting them. It’s about fame and being remembered. The way I see him is that he would leave riddles about what people he’s going to kill, what he’s going to steal, what building he’s going to blow up etc. Some would be simple while other are complicated and multi-layered and then some that a part of a bigger puzzle.

I would like to someone like Sam Rockwell or maybe someone like Adrien Brody.

]]> By: Dragonslayer http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160570 Dragonslayer Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:59:08 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160570 Rants are awesome Rants are awesome

]]> By: Audioout http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160548 Audioout Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:56:48 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160548 @Ginger I LoL'd @Ginger

I LoL’d

]]> By: Ginger http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160544 Ginger Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:54:19 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160544 I think Caine's statements are probably just taken out of context. Just musing on a possible way to ever top it. Caine didn't say they confirmed it, just that they were musing on how you could possiblly to pit. It's like if I was thinking how could you ever top mango sorbet? Wow, I could possibly add macadamia nuts to it! That's how you top it, but I haven't confirmed that I will indeed be adding macadamia nuts, I'm just musing on possibilities! Bad analogy, but I'm eating mango sorbet right now, that's all I could think of I think Caine’s statements are probably just taken out of context. Just musing on a possible way to ever top it. Caine didn’t say they confirmed it, just that they were musing on how you could possiblly to pit. It’s like if I was thinking how could you ever top mango sorbet? Wow, I could possibly add macadamia nuts to it! That’s how you top it, but I haven’t confirmed that I will indeed be adding macadamia nuts, I’m just musing on possibilities! Bad analogy, but I’m eating mango sorbet right now, that’s all I could think of

]]> By: Anti-Ceptic http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160537 Anti-Ceptic Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:37:03 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160537 I am sick and tired of hearing Johnny Depp's name thrown out for every movie that is made. He is a good actor but at playing quirky roles. Could he play the Riddler? Maybe, but I have to be honest and say the idea repulses me. I keep having Captain Jack Sparrow flashbacks! I cannot in any way picture Johnny Depp as the Riddler, it even sounds ludicrous to me. Almost as ludicrous as someone suggesting in another thread that Johnny Depp play Hal Jordon (Green Lantern) Yea, I am still shaking my head over that statement. Hal Jordon is an American Fighter Pilot, not some smarmy cappuccino drinking actor who likes quirky roles. I am sick and tired of hearing Johnny Depp’s name thrown out for every movie that is made. He is a good actor but at playing quirky roles. Could he play the Riddler? Maybe, but I have to be honest and say the idea repulses me. I keep having Captain Jack Sparrow flashbacks!

I cannot in any way picture Johnny Depp as the Riddler, it even sounds ludicrous to me. Almost as ludicrous as someone suggesting in another thread that Johnny Depp play Hal Jordon (Green Lantern) Yea, I am still shaking my head over that statement. Hal Jordon is an American Fighter Pilot, not some smarmy cappuccino drinking actor who likes quirky roles.

]]> By: Audioout http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160526 Audioout Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:17:40 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160526 Also, I don't like Depp as Riddler and really don't like the Zodiac killer Riddler angle, but that is just me. They didn't have to "hardcore" up the other villains introduced thus far to make them work. They just had to follow the spirit of the characters in the comics. Zodiac killer Riddler is not following the spirit of his character. I'm thinking less Zodiac, more Hans Gruber. Actually Die Hard with a Vengence's villain is the closest to a real Riddler I have seen. Also, I don’t like Depp as Riddler and really don’t like the Zodiac killer Riddler angle, but that is just me.

They didn’t have to “hardcore” up the other villains introduced thus far to make them work. They just had to follow the spirit of the characters in the comics. Zodiac killer Riddler is not following the spirit of his character.

I’m thinking less Zodiac, more Hans Gruber.

Actually Die Hard with a Vengence’s villain is the closest to a real Riddler I have seen.

]]> By: Audioout http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160522 Audioout Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:12:58 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160522 This isn't as lame as it seems (at least I hope it isn't) but I made a blog where I posted my picks for casting and characters that I would like included in Batman 3 with pictures to justify my position. I don't go for the obvious choices so anyone who enjoys simple speculation and imagining of possiblities might get a kick out of it. http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=356211394&blogID=431153693 This isn’t as lame as it seems (at least I hope it isn’t) but I made a blog where I posted my picks for casting and characters that I would like included in Batman 3 with pictures to justify my position.

I don’t go for the obvious choices so anyone who enjoys simple speculation and imagining of possiblities might get a kick out of it.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=356211394&blogID=431153693

]]> By: moviegab http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160509 moviegab Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:41:57 +0000 http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/johnny-depp-and-philip-seymour-hoffman-are-not-the-riddler-and-the-peguin#comment-160509 Philip Seymour Hoffman responded to the rumors today saying he was not cast, but he doesnt rule out the idea of being the penguin if he gets offered. Philip Seymour Hoffman responded to the rumors today saying he was not cast, but he doesnt rule out the idea of being the penguin if he gets offered.

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