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		<title>By: jknaub</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/04/why-most-female-lead-action-films-dont-succeed#comment-290831</link>
		<dc:creator>jknaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 08:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, that is true. on the other hand, how many male action lead style people do you meet in real life? the truth is, every day people make mistakes, that is why there are very few real life action legends alive today. how many navy SEALs made it out of Vietnam? how many aces of WWI and WWII made it out alive? not many, but a few. 
its not about is it common, its about do we belive it can be done, male or female. and as for taking a guy.....most fights are about minds, and less muscle anyways. 
besides, women can&#039;t fight? Lyudmila Mykhailivna Pavlichenko, WW2 era russian sniper, 257 credited kills. nuff said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, that is true. on the other hand, how many male action lead style people do you meet in real life? the truth is, every day people make mistakes, that is why there are very few real life action legends alive today. how many navy SEALs made it out of Vietnam? how many aces of WWI and WWII made it out alive? not many, but a few.<br />
its not about is it common, its about do we belive it can be done, male or female. and as for taking a guy&#8230;..most fights are about minds, and less muscle anyways.<br />
besides, women can&#8217;t fight? Lyudmila Mykhailivna Pavlichenko, WW2 era russian sniper, 257 credited kills. nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosie</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/04/why-most-female-lead-action-films-dont-succeed#comment-263258</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 22:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly believe that the leads BEING female has nothing to do with certain films being bad. I love Angelina, Kate, and Uma in action movies, and I think they&#039;re the best female action leads. However, I also love Charlie&#039;s Angels, and I didn&#039;t think Catwoman was half as bad as some people make it out to be (although, it was completely cheesy). I think the main problem is that some men have an unwillingness to relate to females (I&#039;m female, but I can relate to male leads easily). Another issue is that not many females really love action films or superhero movies. For me, it&#039;s a problem. I LOVE these types of movies, but I would like to see some more action films with great female leads now and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly believe that the leads BEING female has nothing to do with certain films being bad. I love Angelina, Kate, and Uma in action movies, and I think they&#8217;re the best female action leads. However, I also love Charlie&#8217;s Angels, and I didn&#8217;t think Catwoman was half as bad as some people make it out to be (although, it was completely cheesy). I think the main problem is that some men have an unwillingness to relate to females (I&#8217;m female, but I can relate to male leads easily). Another issue is that not many females really love action films or superhero movies. For me, it&#8217;s a problem. I LOVE these types of movies, but I would like to see some more action films with great female leads now and again.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/04/why-most-female-lead-action-films-dont-succeed#comment-234252</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me but fair enough with the first films mentioned as their downfall was in fact the storylines, there were no semiotic layers for viewers to think about and no internal logic for the storylines to work in audiences minds. Films like Kill Bill, Underworld and Tomb Raider were very successful for male and female audiences for all ages I might add.

If men cannot identify with female leads what does that say about the men whom you may be refering too? As plenty of men are able to identify with women in film and clearly have some form of education to understand why certain roles have been given to women and understand implications and symbolism within these films. For example M in James Bond was made a woman because the nineties became an age of being politically correct with equal rights for women. I belive a brilliant line in Goldeneye was 
&#039;I don&#039;t think you have the balls for this M?&#039;
&#039;Perhaps but the advantage is I don&#039;t have to think with them all the time&#039;
There was no sexual implications in that, it basically meant women can do exactly what men can do.

I myself can identify with male lead roles and enjoy the film just like many others. Unlike men who are possibly threatened by powerful women? Maybe it is the male pride that stops them enjoying a good film with a female lead.

I&#039;m afraid guys that women may just have the upper hand in films because women know how to use Sex as a Weapon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me but fair enough with the first films mentioned as their downfall was in fact the storylines, there were no semiotic layers for viewers to think about and no internal logic for the storylines to work in audiences minds. Films like Kill Bill, Underworld and Tomb Raider were very successful for male and female audiences for all ages I might add.</p>
<p>If men cannot identify with female leads what does that say about the men whom you may be refering too? As plenty of men are able to identify with women in film and clearly have some form of education to understand why certain roles have been given to women and understand implications and symbolism within these films. For example M in James Bond was made a woman because the nineties became an age of being politically correct with equal rights for women. I belive a brilliant line in Goldeneye was<br />
&#8216;I don&#8217;t think you have the balls for this M?&#8217;<br />
&#8216;Perhaps but the advantage is I don&#8217;t have to think with them all the time&#8217;<br />
There was no sexual implications in that, it basically meant women can do exactly what men can do.</p>
<p>I myself can identify with male lead roles and enjoy the film just like many others. Unlike men who are possibly threatened by powerful women? Maybe it is the male pride that stops them enjoying a good film with a female lead.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid guys that women may just have the upper hand in films because women know how to use Sex as a Weapon.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/04/why-most-female-lead-action-films-dont-succeed#comment-207758</link>
		<dc:creator>Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I think men tend to forget is there are other ways to win a fight than just your fists.  What about the &quot;final girl&quot; in horror movies.  She is a heroine too.  Usually very small boned and dainty and spends most of it screaming but nevertheless she gets her bearings and then tears someone up.  Also, many women are trained in hand to hand combat and aren&#039;t big &quot;nasty girls&quot; Its just like a guy who cannot handle having their behind handed to them to use such a derogatory description. Real men love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I think men tend to forget is there are other ways to win a fight than just your fists.  What about the &#8220;final girl&#8221; in horror movies.  She is a heroine too.  Usually very small boned and dainty and spends most of it screaming but nevertheless she gets her bearings and then tears someone up.  Also, many women are trained in hand to hand combat and aren&#8217;t big &#8220;nasty girls&#8221; Its just like a guy who cannot handle having their behind handed to them to use such a derogatory description. Real men love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/04/why-most-female-lead-action-films-dont-succeed#comment-169293</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting discussion, but to me it comes down a few simple things:

1. Female Lead Action Films are a new thing and, for a while, will only appeal to a sub-population of people who easily accept the idea of a woman having physical prowess.  Give it a decade... (seriously!)
2. &quot;Smart&quot; action is also a new thing.  Action movies, particularly all those super-hero movies, are increasingly featuring facets of power that go beyond strength:  speed, intelligence, agility, accuracy, etc.  There&#039;s a lot more room for plausible female leads in this new world. Again, give it time.
3. Female leads in &quot;smart&quot; action films are seldom going to reach as broad an audience as the typical male lead action films, because the simplest component in action is &quot;power&quot; in the sense of physical strength.  The bigger and faster, the better.  That appeals to the broadest audience, regardless of how good the movie is... and the male physique is just generally better for display of physical strength.

I came across this blog because I was looking for some action/sci-fi/fantasy movies featuring female action leads.  I seek out these movies because I&#039;ve found I flat-out enjoy watching women in action.  I&#039;m a woman, so I can relate to the movement much better.  Plus, watching a woman fight, or do anything physical, really, is usually more aestheticly pleasing to me than watching a man do the same thing. (Yes, I hear you snickering!)  Women have a grace and fineness of movement, even in fighting, that usually exceeds that of men.

Thanks to the blogger who linked to Joss Whedon&#039;s speech.

And a big &quot;Yeah.... hmmm...&quot; to the bloggers who noted the success of female leads in action series on TV, as well as in horror films.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting discussion, but to me it comes down a few simple things:</p>
<p>1. Female Lead Action Films are a new thing and, for a while, will only appeal to a sub-population of people who easily accept the idea of a woman having physical prowess.  Give it a decade&#8230; (seriously!)<br />
2. &#8220;Smart&#8221; action is also a new thing.  Action movies, particularly all those super-hero movies, are increasingly featuring facets of power that go beyond strength:  speed, intelligence, agility, accuracy, etc.  There&#8217;s a lot more room for plausible female leads in this new world. Again, give it time.<br />
3. Female leads in &#8220;smart&#8221; action films are seldom going to reach as broad an audience as the typical male lead action films, because the simplest component in action is &#8220;power&#8221; in the sense of physical strength.  The bigger and faster, the better.  That appeals to the broadest audience, regardless of how good the movie is&#8230; and the male physique is just generally better for display of physical strength.</p>
<p>I came across this blog because I was looking for some action/sci-fi/fantasy movies featuring female action leads.  I seek out these movies because I&#8217;ve found I flat-out enjoy watching women in action.  I&#8217;m a woman, so I can relate to the movement much better.  Plus, watching a woman fight, or do anything physical, really, is usually more aestheticly pleasing to me than watching a man do the same thing. (Yes, I hear you snickering!)  Women have a grace and fineness of movement, even in fighting, that usually exceeds that of men.</p>
<p>Thanks to the blogger who linked to Joss Whedon&#8217;s speech.</p>
<p>And a big &#8220;Yeah&#8230;. hmmm&#8230;&#8221; to the bloggers who noted the success of female leads in action series on TV, as well as in horror films.</p>
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		<title>By: Stv</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/04/why-most-female-lead-action-films-dont-succeed#comment-153910</link>
		<dc:creator>Stv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Men Can’t Identify With Female Leads
Maybe it will sound strange, but I&#039;m a writer-amateur and 75% of main characters in my books are female. Althought I can&#039;t realy understand a womans mind, I think I can pretty much sympathize with a female character in a movie or a book.

2) Believability
The main point here is that most of the scriptwriters make their heroines strong as men, whitch is generally wrong. What a female hero character shoud be good at is speed and agility, not strength. And then it is (atleast in my oppinion) absolutely believable. Unless it&#039;s a sci-fi where what is possible and what is not literaly doesn&#039;t matter. Sure there has to be a propper explanation and some things (like Ultraviolet) are just too eccentric. However in believability is not the problem.

3) We’re Conditioned To See Women For Their Sexuality And Intelligence In Film
I like to see a woman in an action movie as a symbol of pure feline energy and power. Sure, she has to be sexy and inteligent, but she has to kick ass. A woman who doesn&#039;t kick ass in a movie is only half a woman in my eyes.

The main problem isn&#039;t in women. The main problem is in directors and scriptwriters who seems not to choose women as main characters because they&#039;re worried of failure. And when an action movie with a woman comes to its realization it&#039;s something crazy (stupid?) like Ultraviolet. Can you imagine The Matrix or The Bourne trilogy with a female heroine? I do, hell I do.

So in short:
1) All the good titles and their main-characters are taken by men. So there&#039;s only crap left for women.
2) There&#039;s only few action-actress and there&#039;s no actress as good in fighting and stuff like Jet Li is.

So, this is the truth in my eyes and I apologize to those who read these final words, because it means you read it all. Sorry for all the mistakes I made in this post, my english is not good enough.

p.s.: I don&#039;t think Ultraviolet is as stupid as it seems from this post. Some sequences are good and the fights in there aren&#039;t that bad, but as a whole the movie just fails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Men Can’t Identify With Female Leads<br />
Maybe it will sound strange, but I&#8217;m a writer-amateur and 75% of main characters in my books are female. Althought I can&#8217;t realy understand a womans mind, I think I can pretty much sympathize with a female character in a movie or a book.</p>
<p>2) Believability<br />
The main point here is that most of the scriptwriters make their heroines strong as men, whitch is generally wrong. What a female hero character shoud be good at is speed and agility, not strength. And then it is (atleast in my oppinion) absolutely believable. Unless it&#8217;s a sci-fi where what is possible and what is not literaly doesn&#8217;t matter. Sure there has to be a propper explanation and some things (like Ultraviolet) are just too eccentric. However in believability is not the problem.</p>
<p>3) We’re Conditioned To See Women For Their Sexuality And Intelligence In Film<br />
I like to see a woman in an action movie as a symbol of pure feline energy and power. Sure, she has to be sexy and inteligent, but she has to kick ass. A woman who doesn&#8217;t kick ass in a movie is only half a woman in my eyes.</p>
<p>The main problem isn&#8217;t in women. The main problem is in directors and scriptwriters who seems not to choose women as main characters because they&#8217;re worried of failure. And when an action movie with a woman comes to its realization it&#8217;s something crazy (stupid?) like Ultraviolet. Can you imagine The Matrix or The Bourne trilogy with a female heroine? I do, hell I do.</p>
<p>So in short:<br />
1) All the good titles and their main-characters are taken by men. So there&#8217;s only crap left for women.<br />
2) There&#8217;s only few action-actress and there&#8217;s no actress as good in fighting and stuff like Jet Li is.</p>
<p>So, this is the truth in my eyes and I apologize to those who read these final words, because it means you read it all. Sorry for all the mistakes I made in this post, my english is not good enough.</p>
<p>p.s.: I don&#8217;t think Ultraviolet is as stupid as it seems from this post. Some sequences are good and the fights in there aren&#8217;t that bad, but as a whole the movie just fails.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it terribly funny that you use Elektra (yes it&#039;s EleKtra not Electra) as a reference and blame Jennifer Garner for it&#039;s lack of financial return... but then fail to mention the success of Alias??  

Or Resident Evil... ?  Did you want to mention that it tripled it&#039;s 30 million budget in box office return? (ie OVER 100,000,000!!!) 

Or how about Halle Berry, yes...I agree Catwoman was horrible, but are you suggesting her roles as Storm in X-Men or the fact that she was the most talked about Bond Girl in the last few years made those movies less watchable?

Let&#039;s REALLY analyze why these movies bomb before we puke out half cocked sexist opinions.  Men have no issues with ass-kickin&#039; women, Kate Beckinsale, Angelina Jolie, Uma Thurman or Michelle Rodriguez are a good examples of that... but what men and women alike have issues with are lack luster, over-worked, crappy story laden scripts.  When screen writers are forced to think like business suits to ensure some demographic box office return we get crap like Catwoman...

Heck... it happens to male driven action films too, take a look at a winning icon like Batman!!  Add Joel Schumacher and a horrible script and you barely make back your budget... where was the un-relatable female action star you can blame for the box office bomb of Batman and Robin, I don&#039;t think George Clooney has breasts... and Oceans 11 did great...but if the script wasn&#039;t at fault who was?  

Let&#039;s hand the horrible movie credit to those who deserve the infamy... not the actors involved but the script handed to them.

(ps... Even Uma Thurman couldn&#039;t save Catwoman.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it terribly funny that you use Elektra (yes it&#8217;s EleKtra not Electra) as a reference and blame Jennifer Garner for it&#8217;s lack of financial return&#8230; but then fail to mention the success of Alias??  </p>
<p>Or Resident Evil&#8230; ?  Did you want to mention that it tripled it&#8217;s 30 million budget in box office return? (ie OVER 100,000,000!!!) </p>
<p>Or how about Halle Berry, yes&#8230;I agree Catwoman was horrible, but are you suggesting her roles as Storm in X-Men or the fact that she was the most talked about Bond Girl in the last few years made those movies less watchable?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s REALLY analyze why these movies bomb before we puke out half cocked sexist opinions.  Men have no issues with ass-kickin&#8217; women, Kate Beckinsale, Angelina Jolie, Uma Thurman or Michelle Rodriguez are a good examples of that&#8230; but what men and women alike have issues with are lack luster, over-worked, crappy story laden scripts.  When screen writers are forced to think like business suits to ensure some demographic box office return we get crap like Catwoman&#8230;</p>
<p>Heck&#8230; it happens to male driven action films too, take a look at a winning icon like Batman!!  Add Joel Schumacher and a horrible script and you barely make back your budget&#8230; where was the un-relatable female action star you can blame for the box office bomb of Batman and Robin, I don&#8217;t think George Clooney has breasts&#8230; and Oceans 11 did great&#8230;but if the script wasn&#8217;t at fault who was?  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hand the horrible movie credit to those who deserve the infamy&#8230; not the actors involved but the script handed to them.</p>
<p>(ps&#8230; Even Uma Thurman couldn&#8217;t save Catwoman.)</p>
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		<title>By: Madhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other than kill bill all other movies are somehow watchable. Western dont have grip over the sword. Sword movements looks like sweaping. 

Watch this movies, I will bet you wil look for woman-warrior movies once you watch this movie. Stop finding fault in movie, just watch and enjoy. If you dont like these movie, stop watching all woman-warrior movies

So-Close, 
Naked Weapon.
My Wife is a Gangster III,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other than kill bill all other movies are somehow watchable. Western dont have grip over the sword. Sword movements looks like sweaping. </p>
<p>Watch this movies, I will bet you wil look for woman-warrior movies once you watch this movie. Stop finding fault in movie, just watch and enjoy. If you dont like these movie, stop watching all woman-warrior movies</p>
<p>So-Close,<br />
Naked Weapon.<br />
My Wife is a Gangster III,</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it also comes down to the casting.  As a female I don&#039;t particularly want to go and watch a lettuce eating model throw her size 0 body around in an attempt to look tough.  Gone are the days were talent outweighed appearance.  And what is the deal with making superhero women wear heels.  I can barely dance in them let alone do a fly kick...come on.  As a writer, I am more than happy to have a female lead but I will not let my work be ruined by casting an actor that doesn&#039;t suit the role simply because they have a marketable name.  Jessica Biel did so well with Blade because her body was muscular and realistic, she truly looked like she could kick butt.  Also I like the fact that she wasn&#039;t costumed in a full leather outfit.  In reality they would fight crime by day and spend all night moisturising their chaffing skin.  Let&#039;s take away costumes that require the usage to talcum powder to be able to wear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it also comes down to the casting.  As a female I don&#8217;t particularly want to go and watch a lettuce eating model throw her size 0 body around in an attempt to look tough.  Gone are the days were talent outweighed appearance.  And what is the deal with making superhero women wear heels.  I can barely dance in them let alone do a fly kick&#8230;come on.  As a writer, I am more than happy to have a female lead but I will not let my work be ruined by casting an actor that doesn&#8217;t suit the role simply because they have a marketable name.  Jessica Biel did so well with Blade because her body was muscular and realistic, she truly looked like she could kick butt.  Also I like the fact that she wasn&#8217;t costumed in a full leather outfit.  In reality they would fight crime by day and spend all night moisturising their chaffing skin.  Let&#8217;s take away costumes that require the usage to talcum powder to be able to wear.</p>
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		<title>By: rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 19:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if they wanted a belivable female action hero kick ass story, they have to let the woman use her brain, her sexuality and yeah she can use some cool fighting moves too.

Kill Bill was brilliant! but it isn&#039;t &#039;real&#039; like these other action movies that involve men, you really expect me to believe one guy can beat everyone up? (bond, die hard guy, indianna)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if they wanted a belivable female action hero kick ass story, they have to let the woman use her brain, her sexuality and yeah she can use some cool fighting moves too.</p>
<p>Kill Bill was brilliant! but it isn&#8217;t &#8216;real&#8217; like these other action movies that involve men, you really expect me to believe one guy can beat everyone up? (bond, die hard guy, indianna)</p>
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