Will There Be An X-Men 4? Yes and No.

Wolverine-X-Men-4.jpgThe word on a possible X-Men 4 went back and forth even before X-Men 3 (which I thought was the weakest of the 3 films, but still kinda fun… and had the best battle scene of all 3) even hit the theaters. The word was that after X-Men 3 Fox was going to be finished with the X-Men. Then, after it made over $100 million on it’s opening weekend, we started to heard Fox execs talking about how there WOULD be an X-Men 4.

So is there or is there not going to be an X-Men 4 in the near future? Well… the answer is yes and no.

No, there probably won’t be an actual movie with the title “X-Men 4″ anytime soon. As a matter of fact, actor Shawn Ashmore (Iceman) just talked with ShockTillYouDrop and basically said he’s heard nothing about a possible fourth installment:

I would love to do another film, but I think they’re doing these spin-offs and origin stories, so I can’t see in the near future there being an “X-Men 4″ but I have no idea to tell you the truth, it’s really hard to say. I’m holding my breath, waiting for it to happen, but I’m not sure if it will or not.

But here’s the thing… it really all is just a matter of semantics. When the whispers of an X-Men 4 started coming up, it was pretty much understood that it would focus much more on Wolverine (an obvious decision since he is the most popular character in the X-Men universe). And now we have that movie already filming. Oh it’s not called “X-Men 4″, but it does have the same guy as Wolverine back again, with other characters from the X-Men universe in the film with him. We also have a Magneto movie coming… all in the same universe in the same timeline as the X-Men movies.

So yes, there is an X-Men 4… they just called it “X-Men Origins: Wolverine” instead.

So will there be an actual X-Men 4 film anytime soon? I wouldn’t hold my breath, but anything is possible. To me Wolverine is X-Men 4, so either way is doesn’t really matter to me.

23 Comments, Comment or Ping

  1. I was always more interested in the Magneto movie than the Wolverine one but i’m starting to wonder whether we’re going to get it. My gut instinct says we won’t (though they’re obviously waiting to see how Wolverine performs).

    As for X-Men 4, i’m convinced that it won’t happen with Fox. I really think we’re going to have to wait another decade or so, at least long enough for the rights to go back to Marvel completely and they will re-start the franchise from scratch. Given how many stories there are to tell and how the first X-Men movie wasn’t a perfect origin, i think it would be ideal.

    If it is done right, then i’m prepared to wait as long as it takes.

  2. chris (the real one)

    i wouldnt be too upset if they decided to wait and not do one for a while….i wasnt a big fan of the series and wouldnt see a forth. i didnt think they did the characters any justice besides wolverine, prof. x, and magneto. but the second one was ok, i guess, but i dont know….i didnt like the series all that much

  3. Yeah, I couldn’t care less if they did any more X-men movies in the Fox series. I’m not even interested in Wolverine: Origins. Frankly, I think Fox killed the franchise with [spoiler] the deaths of Professor X, Jean, and Scott [end spoiler]. So continuing the series with something like, “X-Men, Generation Next” or “Storm and the young X-Men” or something like that, wouldn’t interest me at all.

    If Marvel’s films (i.e. Hulk, Iron Man, and Punisher) turn out well, hopefully they can get the license back in a few years and do their take on it wherein we actually see a real sentinel and Storm doesn’t talk about hitting Toads with lightning.

  4. In a way, CJ, Prof X isn’t 100% dead.The character, should there be X4, might just be recast and/or the voice of Patrick Stewart. In theory, Famke Janssen can return…as Madeline Pryor, the Jean Grey clone.

    From the way things look, the idea is a “divide and conquer” approach. While we haven’t heard a ton from the Magneto front (or is that X Men 5 for Campea?!) we can get “two” X-Men related films in a year. There’s even speculation that Gambit may spin off of Wolverine (they signed the actor who plays Gambit for a number of pictures)

    “Rebooting” the X films in 10 yrs, Phil, isn’t needed. All they would need, is perhaps Angel, Beast or Storm or Iceman…they run the Xavier school and got a whole new crop of new faces…with new baddies to face (Mr. Sinister, Apocolpse..etc)

  5. Darren, you make a good point about the unfinalized deaths. I had forgotten about that–particularly about Professor X–and I suppose that if Jean survived a lake following her, then some sort of birth after three knife wounds to the gut shouldn’t do her in. But Cyclops is still gone…althoguht the way they bastardized him in the movies, I doubt he’d be missed.

    Also, I see what you mean about Storm, Angel, Ice Man, and Beast being adequate for a new core team–if they threw Nightcrawler or Colussus in their to round out the mix, that could be good too (in my opinion, Nightcrawler was the best part of the X-films). So, I don’t know, maybe there is potential in there, after all. Good thoughts.

  6. But wouldn’t you agree Mr Seeley that X3 left a bitter taste in a lot of people’s mouths (mine included), almost Ang Lee Hulk levels of it. If Marvel wants to get the fans excited again, re-starting it will seem like the sensible option, just like with Hulk.

  7. @Phil:

    No. I don’t.

    First, I have a tough time believing that X-Men The Last Stand left “a bitter taste” and a lot of people hated the film. The film still made a lot of money, the franchise is still being mined.

    “The fans”…you can’t please everyone. But let me throw this out: if X3 was such a letdown, are “the fans” then are not looking forward to Wolverine and its potential ‘prequel sequel’? I don’t buy it for a minute.

    Hey, I was pissed when they killed Cyke (well, CJ…we never actualy see him die, so…never mind…) I was pissed when Prof X bought it (sort of, see above) and then knocking off Jean again. I was mad when Magneto got the cure (or did he?) but y’know what? I was okay with it because you feel that loss and/or that moment of revelation where you go, “ah hah! it’s not over yet!” and you feel sort of good about it. Well, sort of. You know what I mean. I hope. Anyway, movng on…the only two disappointments for me in X3 was the absence of Nightcrawler (which was stupidly explained in the stupid video game; at least the character can be CGI inserted in Prof X’s wake; and “we gotta please the fans” and have Juggernaut say this one liner…)

    Third, aside from the ‘comic book panel picture in picture’ in the Ang Lee Hulk film which was more of a distraction fighting for attention, I actually loved the film. Interestingly the same “fans” who come down on Ang Lee’s take seem to equally despise the trailer for the upcoming Louis Lettier film, which has some mild inspiraration from the TV series. Go figure. Can’t please everyone.

    But I don’t think just because a film isn’t as big in box office as it should be -why does everyone expect X2 and Spider-Man like box office numbers everytime anyway?- that’s not an automatic excuse to redo/reboot/remake everytime something doesn’t go right. Instead of doing that…move on to the next character and franchise.

  8. kat

    Personally, i feel that though their takes on the X-men movies were off in several different ways, I still eagerly waited for the next one, sat in those crowded theaters to watch it, and kept my eyes completely glued to the screen. I am sure that it will be the same way for any spin-off or continuation that they choose to create.
    In my opinion, if you are a true fan of it then yes, you will see differences, point them out, and complain about them. However, over-all, you will still enjoy the film, and not want them to just re-make something, or completely stop making it entirely. Its not always what 100% of the fans want, but also what the artistic vision of their creation is so that the highest number of people will be pleased and the largest profit gained.
    While X3 did cause a bit of an uproar when so many things happened that were different, usually resulting in characters that I enjoyed immensely either being destroyed or not present at all, I still liked the movie.
    I do believe that my biggest complaints are that jubilee and gambit were nowhere to be found in the films, and nightcrawler in only one. These corretions can be made though in any type of spin-off or continuation that FOX deems right.

  9. Marcus

    I liked all three movies however, the plot to them all were weak. To me all the charaers and their powers could have been better. I mean come on. Storm and Wolverine alone could been more interesting(they are both my favs along with Jean). If there will be another one i Ithink the plot would seriousy have to be thought out thoroughly plus more development of the characters. They showed Jean in a better way than from the other movies plus the comics. But how she became the Phoenix plus Scott being killed(what happened to that being shown) and frankly they could have showed her strongly with herself (fightering with herself, trying to keep it under control but no they just let her go to her dark side the death of Professor X, I thnk he just died all wrong. The battle seen was good however the plot overall was a sci fi series with a grading of a C average. Overall I think this was a rush job. period.

  10. mitch

    i think if they really wanted scott jean and prof x back , they could pull it off. Obviously at the very VERY end of X3, we saw that prof x had switched places with the man on muir island. Jean could come back as Madeline Pryor, or they could just say that wolverine killed the dark phoenix and jean survived or something like that. And with cyclops it wouldnt be hard either. Heres the thing, WE NEVER SAW HIM ACTUALLY DIE. We could play it off like this: Jean and cyclops are kissing, and when jeans about to kill scott, she loses control of controlling his blast, and it knocks her back. That could be why when storm and logan found her, she was knocked out on the ground. Cyclops could have wondered off or something.

  11. STEVE

    wolverine sucks! i don’t know why he is the most popular character. he he the least coolest one of them all, i think magneto is the best.

  12. angel

    first of all why is there a spoiler in x men 3 ( prof x talking to Moira)and they didn’t actually show cyclops died and of course magneto at the end of the movie manipulated his metallic chess piece but very very very very slightly…which means that the cure wasn’t perfect or its just temporary…
    fox should make a good alibi if they’re not doing x - men 4 ! people are craving for it !!!

  13. Mujthaba

    Hey all. I think that there will be an X-Men 4. The producers have interviewed Lost star Josh Holloway to play the role of Gambit. I also think that they left the ending very open for another film at the end of X-Men 3. I am a bit confused about the scene after the credits. Numerous people have stated that the camatose patient wasn’t Charles Xavier. Quite the contrary actually. They said it was Onslaught. I’m not sure whether this is a rumour or not but apparently the next film will center on this particular villain. Could anyone shed any light on this? Thankyou

  14. Darkseid

    From the limited perspective of a complete fan of the X-Franchise, it appears to me that so many potentially exploitable loose ends have been tentatively put ‘out there’ that they could almost do ‘anything’ wit Any of the characters, allegedly dead (X3) or not. Comics seem to thrive on the ‘now you’re dead, now you’re not’ concept - why not films? I personally would not surprised, based on the $$$ X3 made, having Xavier, Jean and/or even Cyclops being brought back or the road paved for them to come back towards the end of the Wolverine film. Ultimately, movies seldom follow comics 100%. I still bought the DVD’s and still watch them occassionally and still get pissed that Xavier apparently gets topped, but, Hell, it’s about seeing the Franchise being continued - for me: past, present, future - who cares, just PLEASE keep ‘em coming!!!
    (looking forward to one day seeing X-Men 27)…

  15. LINDA RODGERS

    I hope there is an X-men 4. I didn’t like the way they left things at the end of 3. Rogue losing her powers pissed me off most of all. She’s my favorite female character. While Wolverine and Gambit are my favorite male characters. It would be great to bring Gambit into the mix. I just love those bad boys. I didn’t much care for the whole Rogue/Iceman romance. What romance? There were no sparks. Now Rogue and Gambit, that’s something I can sink my teeth into. So there’s has to be an X-Men 4, there’s just no way around it. That’s my feelings on the subject. Do you agree?

  16. James

    @ Mujthaba

    My first thought is that there’s very little chance that the professor is now Onslaught. First of all, the prof. never shut down Magneto’s mind, so how would they justify the creation of Onslaught? Secondly, The Onslaught story arc would need so many more characters to make it viable, ie the fantastic four, avengers, etc, and since [spoiler] all these guys die off in the end [end spoiler] i doubt that anyone’d produce this movie. All the dead characters aren’t good for the movie business.

    Then again, after the way they changed the Dark Phoenix Saga to become X3, who knows.

  17. Noxiee

    I’ve heard a rumor that maybe Josh Holloway would play Gambit in X4. But I hope they pic another and youger guy. I also hope that Rogue will be played by another girl. Anna Paquin make Rogue look vulnerable and not as strong as she really is. Storm would also make an excellent teacher!

    In X3 you can also see, in the end, that Magneto make the chessthingy move. So it seems like a fourth movie is possible.
    Maybe the cure didn’t work after all.

    It’s not impossible, coz Apocalypto hasn’t shown yet.

    (Sorry if I don’t spell to well, I’m from sweden).

  18. Jesse

    okay.. Linda, i agree with alot of what your saying. but.. you say there has to be a 4th one, but, you also have to think that they just brought back those characters because they never died like that in the comics, so they wouldnt do them differently (not that different) in the movies. but the lack of so much brings a good theory to a second, angel should do more then just fly in one scene, we have yet to see gambit, quicksilver, apocolypse, forge, (although they did not about him) but.. with a movie with as much characters as Xmen, its to be expected that all the mutants wont get there spot in the light. i would love for them to bring some people from the shows like spike, blog, and much more i cant remember at this point. i have a theory that they are gonna make some of the super heroes run into some other ones in the future.. like maybe the avengers with the xmen, or who knows. but its just a theory.. none the less, fox should make a new xmen, some people dont want it. but xmen fans like me, want it real bad!! so.. if they were smart, theyd make it.

  19. Joe

    I would much prefer to see an X-Men 4. I know the last one wasn’t perfect, and I’m sure the Wolverine movie is going to be awesome, but I would rather see what happens to the X-Men post-Alcatraz with these movies. Get Storm and Wolverine as leaders, perhaps even together, with Iceman and Rogue as bigger players for X-Men. Give Rogue powers. Bring in a new enemy or two. Anyway, I enjoyed the film franchise, and would rather continue with this timeline than go back to the “Origins” - yes, it’s the same Universe, but it happens at a totally different time period. We’re not going to see Iceman or Colossus in these movies, as Wolverine hasn’t met them yet. So it won’t be the same as an X-Men 4 at all.

  20. Pam

    I certainly hope they create a new X4! I mean really they need to firstly change Rogue’s character into the original southern type bell. Then of course bring in the cajun gambit! There is so much more that “could” be done, it just needs to be picked up and produced. I know I most definitly would be seeing that movie!

    The rest of the characters, they did quite well with chosing actor/actresses for. Just the Rogue actress. She isn’t a “bad” actress, just isn’t the right person to portray Rogue is all.

    Curious, where is everyone hearing these rumors of a 4th movie? I mean are you just reading it somewhere online? If so, how is it you know what is true and what isn’t?

  21. Myra

    Okay how many true xmen fans here have we already ruled out the possibility of “days of future past” story line with bishop and all those other chacters not to mention it being a good story line to make a 4th on but it would be an excellent way to keep all the same chacters it while adding new ones perferably Gambit ;0

  22. JC

    There has to be a X-Men 4 because at the end of X-Men 3 they showed that the professer was ALIVE! So that tells you theres a next one on they way.And when they do hopefully make it they need to make sure they add Gambit and Jubilee. They should also get some movie ideas from the X-Men tv series whiched aired back in october 31 1992

  23. If you watch the extra features on the X2 DVDs, you will find out that Jubilee was there! You know that girl who was looking at the mutant exibit on the school trip, that’s suppost to be her! Sure, it’s lame, but they still say it’s her.
    Also, I hope they make an X4, and if they do that they include Nightcrawler this time (he’s my all time favorite) and they should show his fun-loving, showman side as well as his faith devoted side. The real reason he was not there (besides what the game says) was because Alan didn’t want to wear all that make up.
    Come ON!

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