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		<title>By: The Other James Taylor</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/cant-we-just-be-entertained#comment-121427</link>
		<dc:creator>The Other James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to say I&#039;m constantly entertained by Uwe Boll&#039;s films.  Simply because I go into them knowing that they&#039;re not going to be great, just mindless fun.  I grab a beer and forget about my day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to say I&#8217;m constantly entertained by Uwe Boll&#8217;s films.  Simply because I go into them knowing that they&#8217;re not going to be great, just mindless fun.  I grab a beer and forget about my day.</p>
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		<title>By: GODFATHER</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/cant-we-just-be-entertained#comment-121196</link>
		<dc:creator>GODFATHER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See... Like I said: &quot;Entertainment is subjective&quot;... Some great points raised by many...

Classy.
Unlike most 18 year olds, you write excellently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See&#8230; Like I said: &#8220;Entertainment is subjective&#8221;&#8230; Some great points raised by many&#8230;</p>
<p>Classy.<br />
Unlike most 18 year olds, you write excellently.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/cant-we-just-be-entertained#comment-121191</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lara Croft 1 and 2. More fun than I ever expected, twice!</description>
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		<title>By: shadopup</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/cant-we-just-be-entertained#comment-121136</link>
		<dc:creator>shadopup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posts 12, 13, 26 and 32 make excellent points.  I feel the same way about comic books as post 32 does about animated films which I also like very much.

Roger Ebert always tries to find the type of audience for a film when he reviews it.  This can largely be applied to the genre that film belongs to (when it can be categorized in one) and the base requirements of said genre.

Films can be either entertainment, thought-provoking, informative or all of the above.  It&#039;s knowing what a film is aiming for and how much it succeeds at it.  Certainly it would be great if all films were all of the above and that is what filmmakers should be aiming for, however, there are certain types of films that I feel do not need or even should encompass all these aspects.  I think this is where some people are maybe expecting too much or too little.

I find it common for some people to make invalid criticisms of a movie simply because it didn&#039;t fulfill their expectations when it is clear that the movie never meant to and was aiming for something else.  This is an extreme example but just to clarify my point.  &quot;I hate Lord of the Rings because that shit can&#039;t happen in real life.&quot;  There is a suspension of disbelief that is required or expected and the only way to know this is for the film to establish its own internal set of rules or logic to create a sense of believability and natural flow/progression.

Another point is what is one&#039;s definition of entertainment?  Is seeing a film about genocide or war or serial killing necessarily entertaining?  It could be a great thought provoking informative film but entertaining?  Maybe not so much unless it somehow manages to be a satire but there are times when entertainment and thought provoking/informative simply don&#039;t mix.

To me entertainment mainly comes in the form of action and/or comedy and a good story that is thought provoking.  It doesn&#039;t necessarily have to be informative of or wet within the circumstances of any current events, history etc. but that can certainly enhance a film but also limit its accessibility.  I can understand that for some movie fans a good, though provoking story isn&#039;t necessary for entertainment purposes.

I don&#039;t think Transformers was a good movie with a good story.  Could it have been?  Of course, all movies can be and should aim to be but what was this film aiming for really?  Mainly it was aiming for entertainment in the form of lots of robot fight action.  Did we get that?...not  much.  There weren&#039;t many action scenes and they were poorly filmed with lots of quick cuts and fast moving shots that made some of the action impossible to follow.  The transformations went by so quickly I couldn&#039;t appreciate them.  The final battle and defeat of Megatron was super lame and anticlimatic.  Thus I found this movie to be lacking in its base requirement to entertain.  My opinion on the movie was based on no preconceptions of Michael Bay or Transformers cartoon having never watched it as a kid.  I only knew who Optimus Prime was and that&#039;s it.  If there&#039;s one thing that&#039;s lacking is that I don&#039;t have any means to determine whether the film captured the spirit of the cartoon or not.  Whatever the spirit the film had, I did not feel it.

Spider-man 3 on the other hand had more tangible expectations for me following the excellent Spider-man 2 and the comics.  Was it a disappointment in the character/story department, yes but was it entertaining?  Also a yes.  It had some great action scenes even if Venom was not handled so well.  Spidey vs Sandman, Spidey vs Goblin and then Spidey/Goblin vs Sandman/Venom were highly entertaining.  The plot was contrived to get to those scenes but there was enough entertainment to make it worthwhile.  Yes when comparing it to previous films it was a colossal disappointment but judging it on its own merits compared to Transformers, it was more entertaining.  My opinion is based on having read many Spidey comics.  A lot of things bugged me about the movie but in the end I got at least one thing I wanted which was some good old Spidey action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posts 12, 13, 26 and 32 make excellent points.  I feel the same way about comic books as post 32 does about animated films which I also like very much.</p>
<p>Roger Ebert always tries to find the type of audience for a film when he reviews it.  This can largely be applied to the genre that film belongs to (when it can be categorized in one) and the base requirements of said genre.</p>
<p>Films can be either entertainment, thought-provoking, informative or all of the above.  It&#8217;s knowing what a film is aiming for and how much it succeeds at it.  Certainly it would be great if all films were all of the above and that is what filmmakers should be aiming for, however, there are certain types of films that I feel do not need or even should encompass all these aspects.  I think this is where some people are maybe expecting too much or too little.</p>
<p>I find it common for some people to make invalid criticisms of a movie simply because it didn&#8217;t fulfill their expectations when it is clear that the movie never meant to and was aiming for something else.  This is an extreme example but just to clarify my point.  &#8220;I hate Lord of the Rings because that shit can&#8217;t happen in real life.&#8221;  There is a suspension of disbelief that is required or expected and the only way to know this is for the film to establish its own internal set of rules or logic to create a sense of believability and natural flow/progression.</p>
<p>Another point is what is one&#8217;s definition of entertainment?  Is seeing a film about genocide or war or serial killing necessarily entertaining?  It could be a great thought provoking informative film but entertaining?  Maybe not so much unless it somehow manages to be a satire but there are times when entertainment and thought provoking/informative simply don&#8217;t mix.</p>
<p>To me entertainment mainly comes in the form of action and/or comedy and a good story that is thought provoking.  It doesn&#8217;t necessarily have to be informative of or wet within the circumstances of any current events, history etc. but that can certainly enhance a film but also limit its accessibility.  I can understand that for some movie fans a good, though provoking story isn&#8217;t necessary for entertainment purposes.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Transformers was a good movie with a good story.  Could it have been?  Of course, all movies can be and should aim to be but what was this film aiming for really?  Mainly it was aiming for entertainment in the form of lots of robot fight action.  Did we get that?&#8230;not  much.  There weren&#8217;t many action scenes and they were poorly filmed with lots of quick cuts and fast moving shots that made some of the action impossible to follow.  The transformations went by so quickly I couldn&#8217;t appreciate them.  The final battle and defeat of Megatron was super lame and anticlimatic.  Thus I found this movie to be lacking in its base requirement to entertain.  My opinion on the movie was based on no preconceptions of Michael Bay or Transformers cartoon having never watched it as a kid.  I only knew who Optimus Prime was and that&#8217;s it.  If there&#8217;s one thing that&#8217;s lacking is that I don&#8217;t have any means to determine whether the film captured the spirit of the cartoon or not.  Whatever the spirit the film had, I did not feel it.</p>
<p>Spider-man 3 on the other hand had more tangible expectations for me following the excellent Spider-man 2 and the comics.  Was it a disappointment in the character/story department, yes but was it entertaining?  Also a yes.  It had some great action scenes even if Venom was not handled so well.  Spidey vs Sandman, Spidey vs Goblin and then Spidey/Goblin vs Sandman/Venom were highly entertaining.  The plot was contrived to get to those scenes but there was enough entertainment to make it worthwhile.  Yes when comparing it to previous films it was a colossal disappointment but judging it on its own merits compared to Transformers, it was more entertaining.  My opinion is based on having read many Spidey comics.  A lot of things bugged me about the movie but in the end I got at least one thing I wanted which was some good old Spidey action.</p>
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		<title>By: cib3k</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/cant-we-just-be-entertained#comment-121120</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, only comedies can sometimes be brainless entertainment. Everything else needs to have a story that makes sense, good acting, good directing, and everything you&#039;d generally expect from a good movie. I don&#039;t mind an action movie with a THIN, simple plot, but I do mind one with a DUMB, stupid plot - like Transformers, for example. And I can ignore some flaws as long as the movie has enough redeeming qualitites and it doesn&#039;t insult my intelligence too much. 

I loved Idiocracy and I think that&#039;s exactly where we&#039;re going. I HATE it how some people look at movies just as &quot;entertainment&quot;. That they go to see a movie just to be &quot;entertained&quot;. This is probably the most powerful medium, with which you could achieve amazing results in impacting people, and all you use it for is nice fireworks and cheap entertainment? Reminds me of another stupid preconceived idea, that animation is just for kids. It took the Japanese to show what this kind of art is capable of, what amazing results you could achieve with it. It&#039;s the same with movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, only comedies can sometimes be brainless entertainment. Everything else needs to have a story that makes sense, good acting, good directing, and everything you&#8217;d generally expect from a good movie. I don&#8217;t mind an action movie with a THIN, simple plot, but I do mind one with a DUMB, stupid plot &#8211; like Transformers, for example. And I can ignore some flaws as long as the movie has enough redeeming qualitites and it doesn&#8217;t insult my intelligence too much. </p>
<p>I loved Idiocracy and I think that&#8217;s exactly where we&#8217;re going. I HATE it how some people look at movies just as &#8220;entertainment&#8221;. That they go to see a movie just to be &#8220;entertained&#8221;. This is probably the most powerful medium, with which you could achieve amazing results in impacting people, and all you use it for is nice fireworks and cheap entertainment? Reminds me of another stupid preconceived idea, that animation is just for kids. It took the Japanese to show what this kind of art is capable of, what amazing results you could achieve with it. It&#8217;s the same with movies.</p>
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		<title>By: ScreenRant.com</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/cant-we-just-be-entertained#comment-121108</link>
		<dc:creator>ScreenRant.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classy,

I wish you were in the majority in your age group instead of your friends. The quality of ALL films would skyrocket if teenagers didn&#039;t go and see everything, no matter how crappy.

Vic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classy,</p>
<p>I wish you were in the majority in your age group instead of your friends. The quality of ALL films would skyrocket if teenagers didn&#8217;t go and see everything, no matter how crappy.</p>
<p>Vic</p>
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		<title>By: oldnumberseven</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/cant-we-just-be-entertained#comment-121100</link>
		<dc:creator>oldnumberseven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at a movie that is considered one of the greatest &#039;The Godfather,&#039; the heart of the story is gangsters, then look at all the gangster movies that just don&#039;t stack up with Godfather.  Hell, look at Godfather III.  If you can be entertained by Godfather III, well more power to you, I certainly can&#039;t be entertained by that crap.

I will never understand why the studios spend all that dough to make a movie when they must know it can&#039;t be any good.  The premise is flawed, the actors aren&#039;t any good, or what have you.  Must be a tax shelter thing.

I will also never understand why a studio would spend the dough to make a movie like Watchmen if they are going to make the Watchmen as Interpreted by Zach whats-is-name, instead of just making the Watchmen.  Ridiculous.  Why by the rights to the Watchmen if you are going to change the story?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at a movie that is considered one of the greatest &#8216;The Godfather,&#8217; the heart of the story is gangsters, then look at all the gangster movies that just don&#8217;t stack up with Godfather.  Hell, look at Godfather III.  If you can be entertained by Godfather III, well more power to you, I certainly can&#8217;t be entertained by that crap.</p>
<p>I will never understand why the studios spend all that dough to make a movie when they must know it can&#8217;t be any good.  The premise is flawed, the actors aren&#8217;t any good, or what have you.  Must be a tax shelter thing.</p>
<p>I will also never understand why a studio would spend the dough to make a movie like Watchmen if they are going to make the Watchmen as Interpreted by Zach whats-is-name, instead of just making the Watchmen.  Ridiculous.  Why by the rights to the Watchmen if you are going to change the story?</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Hungus</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/02/cant-we-just-be-entertained#comment-121096</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Hungus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Alfie, as far as your point about Daredevil and Ghost Rider, I&#039;ll counter with the X Men films, Batman Begins and Hellboy. ;)

I do think we have pretty much the same ratio of good to bad as we always did. I could pick out loads of films from the past decade that were exceptionally good and entertaining. Yes, there&#039;s crap like the films you&#039;ve mentioned, but there&#039;s still loads of awesome ones.

Come on... Serenity? Pirates of the Caribbean (First one)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Alfie, as far as your point about Daredevil and Ghost Rider, I&#8217;ll counter with the X Men films, Batman Begins and Hellboy. ;)</p>
<p>I do think we have pretty much the same ratio of good to bad as we always did. I could pick out loads of films from the past decade that were exceptionally good and entertaining. Yes, there&#8217;s crap like the films you&#8217;ve mentioned, but there&#8217;s still loads of awesome ones.</p>
<p>Come on&#8230; Serenity? Pirates of the Caribbean (First one)?</p>
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		<title>By: takata</title>
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		<dc:creator>takata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alfie@
 
Today is easy to make entertainment movies.
recipe is 2 or 3 cutie faces for the heros,1 ugly for the badie,1 director (cinema experience not required)and some good money for the CGI. 
Very easy combo to make.
In the past this kind of production always ended on the hands of the the little studios(cannon,golan globus),so less money to produce less shit to hit the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alfie@</p>
<p>Today is easy to make entertainment movies.<br />
recipe is 2 or 3 cutie faces for the heros,1 ugly for the badie,1 director (cinema experience not required)and some good money for the CGI.<br />
Very easy combo to make.<br />
In the past this kind of production always ended on the hands of the the little studios(cannon,golan globus),so less money to produce less shit to hit the market.</p>
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		<title>By: alfie</title>
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		<dc:creator>alfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>karl hungus has a good point though..there was a ton of shit bacxk in the day absolutley but I am sorry these days for every casino royale there is a daredevil, a ghost rider and 2 transporters.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>karl hungus has a good point though..there was a ton of shit bacxk in the day absolutley but I am sorry these days for every casino royale there is a daredevil, a ghost rider and 2 transporters&#8230;..</p>
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