There are enough movies and tv shows from the past that all of us haven’t seen. We can just watch them. There are enough of them that no one would ever be able to see them all in one lifetime.

Go watch “Glenngarry Glen Ross”. Go watch “Twin Peaks” or some episodes of SNL from the ’70s. There have been like 30 high-quality tv drama series in the past 10 years, and there’s no way you’ve seen them all yet; so go rent “24″ or “The Shield” or something like that. It’s new to you if you haven’t seen it.

We should thank the strike for halting production of new material, giving us a chance to actually catch our breath as audience members. We can now actually spend time with our loved ones, and maybe even think about READING a book for a change.

You cannot gage reviews into a current contract. The best you can hope for is a better deal on the next picture. But what if there is no next picture? Take the writer of Galaxy Quest,, a critical and financial hit. The guy was has yet to be able to put together another project.

Harper Lee wrote one American Classic. Should she not get a percent of the audio book?

thats why i raised it…

i just remembered you saying ages ago about the reviews being good and that proved the studio was right but since the reviews ultimately wound up being for the most part bad that surely it means they wer wrong if we were to go by your way of thinking.

i totally believe is entirely unprovable exactly what the reviews meant…it could have gone either way but i wasn’t the one claiming it went a certain way to validate my opinion. thats why i raised it…..i was having you on.

but for me it doesn’t matter ….i will always side with the artist over the suits.

You said:

john its impossible to say that if the studio hadn’t have stepped in it would have gotten more bad reviews.

And the same would be true in reverse as well. You can’t say the reviews would have been better or that it would have made more money if they did it the other way.

impossible…it in no way makes you correct but i do love how you spin anything argument so that it reflects your view.

once you believe something you stick to it…..

What’s the point of that video? All it shows is that people believe there is money and a future in digital distribution. The Producers aren’t saying there isn’t.

The Producers are just correctly pointing out that how that digital distribution works, in what form it takes, and ever changing channels it uses are in a state of flux right now because it’s so new. And they’re 100% correct.

That’s why they offered $130 million right now, and then re-visit the issue in just 3 short years once the medium stabilizes and people have a better understanding of how it works and what it will look like.

Are Studios greedy bastards? YES! But guess what dude, if you don’t think writers and their agents will fuck you over every chance they get, then I’d like to know what color the sky is in your world.

And I was 100% correct about Across the Universe. If the studio didn’t step in, a lot more critics would have hated it. Than movie was never the kind of film that was going to make a lot at the box office… if the studio didn’t make the changes, it would have made MUCH less.

Once again.. I am correct.

the studio and network heads certainly weren’t unsure of how much money was to be made from digital until the
writers asked for.

you will see when you really need to watch this clip..you can see the glee in their faces and how excited they all are….the guy from disney even knows a figure of much they are making..now that the people responsible for it want a piece all of a sudden they are unsure?? BULLSHIT.

anyone who thinks the studios are telling the truth need to watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a37uqd5vTw

look at the greedy gleefull twinkle in their eyes….

what a surprise…the non creatives are lying to rip off the creatives…..how novel.

only a moron would think the future is not in digital so the writers are completely in the right to try and make sure they get a piece. they got fucked in the 80′s with the home video market..the studios were uncertain about that back then and they are not going to let it happen again.

why is that unreasonable?

the guy who makes battlestar galactica was asked to make some webisodes for the internet. the network said it was purely promotional and there was no money in it so he made them for free…the same thing with the makers of the office.then when the networks played them online they had commercials..paid commercials.

so the writers and showrunners who were asked to make these things for free because there was supposedly no money in it were lied to and ripped off.

they did them for nothing while the networks sold commercials with them.

I know we are never going to agree on this john but whenever it comes to studio vs creative i will go with the guys responsible for the characters and situations and dialogue and stories everytime.i might have a little more time for studio heads if they didn’t have history of fucking people over again and again out of points and putting up the losses of a bomb against the earnings of a hit to cook the books so they don’t have to pay people but unfortunately for the most part hollywood producers and studio heads have behaved like crooks so fuck em.

the only reason your website exists or any movie website exists is because we love this form of STORYtelling.
and thats what it is.

you bring up transformers all the time as example of a bad script which it is but without a script the film would never have been made and i am sorry i know we all talk about “just give us 2 hours of non stop action” but if they made a film with no story at all and literally just a showreel of effects it would not make money.every film needs a story.you can argue the merits of each one individually but at the end of the day no film gets made without a script. (improvs and docos aside)

so I will always side with the creatives and not the suits who are more interested in getting a shot of a coke bottle in every second scene so they can pay the mortgage on their condo.

oh that reminds me i noticed you never corrected yourself about “across the universe” either? its final RT rating was rotten and it tanked.

now when it initially got a few good reviews you mentioned that was some sort of proof that studio interference is a good thing….but now that it bombed and its final rating was rotten, well, surely if good reviews somehow justified studio interference with the majority of reviews ultimately being negative that proves they should have kept their noses out of it???? ;)

I also back up the Heroes S2 comment.