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		<title>By: darkbhudda</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/sony-announces-a-cheaper-bluray#comment-101823</link>
		<dc:creator>darkbhudda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 06:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;keep in mind that we’re looking at 2nd-generation 360 games vs 1st-generation PS3 games.&quot;

Sorry that&#039;s wrong.  PS3 devkits were out long before 360 devkits.  The only reason PS3 was delayed for so long was because of the blu-ray drive. The PS3 games should already look better than the 360 games rather than the converse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;keep in mind that we’re looking at 2nd-generation 360 games vs 1st-generation PS3 games.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry that&#8217;s wrong.  PS3 devkits were out long before 360 devkits.  The only reason PS3 was delayed for so long was because of the blu-ray drive. The PS3 games should already look better than the 360 games rather than the converse.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/sony-announces-a-cheaper-bluray#comment-101740</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Heroes Boxed set is only worth $50, but still its a good deal.   Like buy 6 movies and a box set and get the HD addon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Heroes Boxed set is only worth $50, but still its a good deal.   Like buy 6 movies and a box set and get the HD addon.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/sony-announces-a-cheaper-bluray#comment-101664</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s clarify a few things.

1. the 399 PS3 plays PS1 games not PS2. PS3 games review second worse on gamerankings.com (the game version of rotten tomatoes). Currently on that site the Wii has 7 games above 80%, the PS3 20, and the Xbox 360 has 67 games. Yes the 360 has a year adventage, but in that first year they released Gears of War the second top selling game of last year (Zelda #1) which as of November will be a PC/360 exclusive. The Wii will have released Mario Galaxy and Zelda in that year, two GOTY candidate games and very strong review scores for sure. (Galaxy is almost guranteed good scores, it looks phenomenal. The PS3 will have released...Ratchet and Uncharted (both great games but nowhere near Gears, Zelda, Mario.)

2. The PS3 has been dead last in sales since it released. Every month it has finished behind the Xbox 360 and the Wii. That is not coincidence. 

3. The September 2007 sales were as follows:
    - (1) Xbox 360 - 527&#039;000
    - (2) Nintendo Wii - 500&#039;000
    - (3) Playstation 3 - 119&#039;000

Which of those numbers. The games and BR technology are difficult for developers and it shows in sales.

4. The PS3 is difficult to develop for and if you don&#039;t believe me then tell me why Half - Life 2: Orange Box is out on 360 and PC, but the PS3 one got delayed. And in that case why is Jon Woo&#039;s Stranglehold not out on PS3 yet, it&#039;s been on 360 for a month.

5. The PS3 best games don&#039;t come out until next year. Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy XIII, UT III (or very late december), Killzone (i have my doubts still about it) are all 2008 games. 

6. Halo 3 sold 3.3 million copies in 10 days, that&#039;s more copies then PS3&#039;s in North America. That&#039;s why 3rd party developers go to 360 first, PS3 second. Larger install base= more potential sales. 

7. On Gamerankings as of 10/20 these are the top reviewed games of 2007:
   - (1) Bioshock [X360]
   - (2) Bioshock [PC] 
   - (3) Halo 3 [X360]
   - (4) Elder Scrolls IV [PS3] -- also on 360/PC but released in 2006
   - (5) Galactic Civilizations II: Dark avatar [PC]
   - (6) God of War II [PS2]
   - (7) Guitar Hero II [X360] -- also on PS2 released in 2006
   - (8) Resident Evil 4 [Wii] - also on Gamecube, PS2, and PC
   - (9) Final Fantasy IV [GBA] 
   - (10) World of Warcraft: The Burning crusade

8. games that appear on PS3/360 are 95% of the time better on 360. For exampe, Madden NFL 2008 runs at 30 frames per second on PS3 and 60 frames per second on Xbox 360.

9. The market leader in sales in the Wii. Then the 360. The 360 in two years ahs dropped 100$. The Wii hasn&#039;t dropped. The PS3 has no dropped 260$ cdn in less then a year. Coincidence?

10. If theres one mark against the 360 it&#039;s that online costs 5$ a month, whereas its free on PS3/Wii. That said the 360 online is the best service, but it should be free. although, 5$ isn&#039;t too much.


Hope that helps everyone out. The only reason to really buy a PS3 is for bluray. And even then this war HD-DVD/Blu Ray battle is far from voer so I know reason to pick sides at this point. Oh, and I thought this was amusing:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/console-wars/sony-pleading-to-keep-third-parties-on-ps3-313148.php

not sure how true it is. but concerning and humorous all the lest. If your looking for a gaming blog like the movie blog with funny people and plenty of posts I heavily recommend Kotaku.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s clarify a few things.</p>
<p>1. the 399 PS3 plays PS1 games not PS2. PS3 games review second worse on gamerankings.com (the game version of rotten tomatoes). Currently on that site the Wii has 7 games above 80%, the PS3 20, and the Xbox 360 has 67 games. Yes the 360 has a year adventage, but in that first year they released Gears of War the second top selling game of last year (Zelda #1) which as of November will be a PC/360 exclusive. The Wii will have released Mario Galaxy and Zelda in that year, two GOTY candidate games and very strong review scores for sure. (Galaxy is almost guranteed good scores, it looks phenomenal. The PS3 will have released&#8230;Ratchet and Uncharted (both great games but nowhere near Gears, Zelda, Mario.)</p>
<p>2. The PS3 has been dead last in sales since it released. Every month it has finished behind the Xbox 360 and the Wii. That is not coincidence. </p>
<p>3. The September 2007 sales were as follows:<br />
    &#8211; (1) Xbox 360 &#8211; 527&#8217;000<br />
    &#8211; (2) Nintendo Wii &#8211; 500&#8217;000<br />
    &#8211; (3) Playstation 3 &#8211; 119&#8217;000</p>
<p>Which of those numbers. The games and BR technology are difficult for developers and it shows in sales.</p>
<p>4. The PS3 is difficult to develop for and if you don&#8217;t believe me then tell me why Half &#8211; Life 2: Orange Box is out on 360 and PC, but the PS3 one got delayed. And in that case why is Jon Woo&#8217;s Stranglehold not out on PS3 yet, it&#8217;s been on 360 for a month.</p>
<p>5. The PS3 best games don&#8217;t come out until next year. Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy XIII, UT III (or very late december), Killzone (i have my doubts still about it) are all 2008 games. </p>
<p>6. Halo 3 sold 3.3 million copies in 10 days, that&#8217;s more copies then PS3&#8242;s in North America. That&#8217;s why 3rd party developers go to 360 first, PS3 second. Larger install base= more potential sales. </p>
<p>7. On Gamerankings as of 10/20 these are the top reviewed games of 2007:<br />
   &#8211; (1) Bioshock [X360]<br />
   &#8211; (2) Bioshock [PC]<br />
   &#8211; (3) Halo 3 [X360]<br />
   &#8211; (4) Elder Scrolls IV [PS3] &#8212; also on 360/PC but released in 2006<br />
   &#8211; (5) Galactic Civilizations II: Dark avatar [PC]<br />
   &#8211; (6) God of War II [PS2]<br />
   &#8211; (7) Guitar Hero II [X360] &#8212; also on PS2 released in 2006<br />
   &#8211; (8) Resident Evil 4 [Wii] &#8211; also on Gamecube, PS2, and PC<br />
   &#8211; (9) Final Fantasy IV [GBA]<br />
   &#8211; (10) World of Warcraft: The Burning crusade</p>
<p>8. games that appear on PS3/360 are 95% of the time better on 360. For exampe, Madden NFL 2008 runs at 30 frames per second on PS3 and 60 frames per second on Xbox 360.</p>
<p>9. The market leader in sales in the Wii. Then the 360. The 360 in two years ahs dropped 100$. The Wii hasn&#8217;t dropped. The PS3 has no dropped 260$ cdn in less then a year. Coincidence?</p>
<p>10. If theres one mark against the 360 it&#8217;s that online costs 5$ a month, whereas its free on PS3/Wii. That said the 360 online is the best service, but it should be free. although, 5$ isn&#8217;t too much.</p>
<p>Hope that helps everyone out. The only reason to really buy a PS3 is for bluray. And even then this war HD-DVD/Blu Ray battle is far from voer so I know reason to pick sides at this point. Oh, and I thought this was amusing:</p>
<p><a href="http://kotaku.com/gaming/console-wars/sony-pleading-to-keep-third-parties-on-ps3-313148.php" rel="nofollow">http://kotaku.com/gaming/console-wars/sony-pleading-to-keep-third-parties-on-ps3-313148.php</a></p>
<p>not sure how true it is. but concerning and humorous all the lest. If your looking for a gaming blog like the movie blog with funny people and plenty of posts I heavily recommend Kotaku.com</p>
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		<title>By: scoville</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/sony-announces-a-cheaper-bluray#comment-101611</link>
		<dc:creator>scoville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That last post wasn&#039;t trying to prove any point.  I just thought it was interesting info about the gaming industry right now.

I admit, I&#039;m very biased in this whole &quot;console war&quot;.  I have several friends who are game developers, reviewers etc. and their opinions about the PS3 have rubbed off on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last post wasn&#8217;t trying to prove any point.  I just thought it was interesting info about the gaming industry right now.</p>
<p>I admit, I&#8217;m very biased in this whole &#8220;console war&#8221;.  I have several friends who are game developers, reviewers etc. and their opinions about the PS3 have rubbed off on me.</p>
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		<title>By: slybri</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/sony-announces-a-cheaper-bluray#comment-101609</link>
		<dc:creator>slybri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, If you get the 360 HD-DVD add on from Best Buy right now you get the HEROES box set free, as well as King Kong, and 5 other HD-DVDs. Thats 6 HD-DVDs and a 100 dollar box set for free. Not too shabby. 

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/19/xbox-360-hd-dvd-offers-expanded-heroes-free-with-purchase-at-be/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, If you get the 360 HD-DVD add on from Best Buy right now you get the HEROES box set free, as well as King Kong, and 5 other HD-DVDs. Thats 6 HD-DVDs and a 100 dollar box set for free. Not too shabby. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/19/xbox-360-hd-dvd-offers-expanded-heroes-free-with-purchase-at-be/" rel="nofollow">http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/19/xbox-360-hd-dvd-offers-expanded-heroes-free-with-purchase-at-be/</a></p>
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		<title>By: slybri</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/sony-announces-a-cheaper-bluray#comment-101608</link>
		<dc:creator>slybri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the HD-DVD player for my XBOX for $180 and it&#039;s been worth it. Planet Earth in HD is jaw dropping, all 11 hours of it. Transformers in HD blew me away. The quality is far superior to broadcast HD. 

 I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll eventually get the PS3, there just aren&#039;t any games I&#039;m interested in right now to justify the purchase. When you buy a game console just to play movies, it&#039;s not a very good game console. 
 
 I&#039;m just waiting for Wrath of Khan to be released on HD-DVD.  Then I will be in heaven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the HD-DVD player for my XBOX for $180 and it&#8217;s been worth it. Planet Earth in HD is jaw dropping, all 11 hours of it. Transformers in HD blew me away. The quality is far superior to broadcast HD. </p>
<p> I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll eventually get the PS3, there just aren&#8217;t any games I&#8217;m interested in right now to justify the purchase. When you buy a game console just to play movies, it&#8217;s not a very good game console. </p>
<p> I&#8217;m just waiting for Wrath of Khan to be released on HD-DVD.  Then I will be in heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: AjaxLou</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/sony-announces-a-cheaper-bluray#comment-101593</link>
		<dc:creator>AjaxLou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Technically speaking, BLU RAY movies are aesthetically better than HD DVD. &quot;  Love this oxymoronic sentence!

If a movie is encoded the same for HD and BluRay there is no difference.

I have a HD player, great upconvertor, great CD player, and awesome HD video and audio player.

Really enjoy HD movies.  With the PS3 dropping in price I&#039;m getting ready to pull the trigger on one and enter the BluRay world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Technically speaking, BLU RAY movies are aesthetically better than HD DVD. &#8221;  Love this oxymoronic sentence!</p>
<p>If a movie is encoded the same for HD and BluRay there is no difference.</p>
<p>I have a HD player, great upconvertor, great CD player, and awesome HD video and audio player.</p>
<p>Really enjoy HD movies.  With the PS3 dropping in price I&#8217;m getting ready to pull the trigger on one and enter the BluRay world.</p>
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		<title>By: TheFlyingWorm</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheFlyingWorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 05:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scoville, I understand, but trust me, as crazy as I may sound, PS3 IS GOING TO RULE EVERYTHING A YEAR FROM NOW. I will bet money on it.  Counting PS3 down for the count right now is WAAAAAY to premature.  you will see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scoville, I understand, but trust me, as crazy as I may sound, PS3 IS GOING TO RULE EVERYTHING A YEAR FROM NOW. I will bet money on it.  Counting PS3 down for the count right now is WAAAAAY to premature.  you will see.</p>
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		<title>By: TheFlyingWorm</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/sony-announces-a-cheaper-bluray#comment-101560</link>
		<dc:creator>TheFlyingWorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, it seems only a couple people on this particular blog actually know about the technical capabilities/cost of these two particular consoles.  It seems no one here is qualified to make a call on this subject (no I am not directing that statement to you John) but here is an excerpt from gamespot.com ( an objectionable point of view)

&quot;Right now, the cost of a $349 20GB Xbox 360 Pro or the $449 120GB Xbox 360 Elite and the external HD-DVD drive ($180) is far more than either the $399 40GB PS3 or the $499 80GB PS3--$528 and $628, respectively. If Toshiba and Microsoft can&#039;t make a HD-DVD-equipped console cheap enough to be attractive--or cool enough not to suffer from the console&#039;s widespread overheating problem--the next-gen console war could get a lot more interesting&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it seems only a couple people on this particular blog actually know about the technical capabilities/cost of these two particular consoles.  It seems no one here is qualified to make a call on this subject (no I am not directing that statement to you John) but here is an excerpt from gamespot.com ( an objectionable point of view)</p>
<p>&#8220;Right now, the cost of a $349 20GB Xbox 360 Pro or the $449 120GB Xbox 360 Elite and the external HD-DVD drive ($180) is far more than either the $399 40GB PS3 or the $499 80GB PS3&#8211;$528 and $628, respectively. If Toshiba and Microsoft can&#8217;t make a HD-DVD-equipped console cheap enough to be attractive&#8211;or cool enough not to suffer from the console&#8217;s widespread overheating problem&#8211;the next-gen console war could get a lot more interesting&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/sony-announces-a-cheaper-bluray#comment-101549</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allow me to chime in my $0.02 worth. 

1. The &quot;advantage of BluRay&quot; is only an advantage if you care about next gen formats.  The majority are waiting for the dust to settle (I am one of them) Regardless of price, your fancy collection of premium priced dvds and out of date machine will still be a financial drain when you find out your side loses (whichever one wins - not predicting here)

2. You can bicker about development all you want, but the fact remains that most of the titles listed above (aside from a couple that are due out by christmas) were not appealing enough to the mass market to support PS3&#039;s insane price point.

3. The desperate attempt by Sony to reduce the PS3 features defeats the purpose of buying a PS3.  Its a glorified BluRay player without any of the real advantages of a Sony game system (who needs two consoles when one should play all disks?)  See my first point.

Bottom line is that this is desperation.  Sony is grasping at straws.  Not enough people are falling in line at the Sony camp and there are TWO major consoles competing against it that share a broader appeal to the gaming market at half the price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow me to chime in my $0.02 worth. </p>
<p>1. The &#8220;advantage of BluRay&#8221; is only an advantage if you care about next gen formats.  The majority are waiting for the dust to settle (I am one of them) Regardless of price, your fancy collection of premium priced dvds and out of date machine will still be a financial drain when you find out your side loses (whichever one wins &#8211; not predicting here)</p>
<p>2. You can bicker about development all you want, but the fact remains that most of the titles listed above (aside from a couple that are due out by christmas) were not appealing enough to the mass market to support PS3&#8242;s insane price point.</p>
<p>3. The desperate attempt by Sony to reduce the PS3 features defeats the purpose of buying a PS3.  Its a glorified BluRay player without any of the real advantages of a Sony game system (who needs two consoles when one should play all disks?)  See my first point.</p>
<p>Bottom line is that this is desperation.  Sony is grasping at straws.  Not enough people are falling in line at the Sony camp and there are TWO major consoles competing against it that share a broader appeal to the gaming market at half the price.</p>
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