The first Fantastic Four film was disappointing, no doubt. But even though it wasn’t a very good movie, it had the strange effect of still making me enjoy it a little bit. Yes there was some bad acting, terrible dialog and loads of cheese… but it was also kinda funny in places and had its charm. Still… a film that should have been much better.
So here comes along Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. The trailers have looked pretty good, having the Surfer is good… but the whole “Is or is not Galactus a frigging Storm Cloud in the movie?” question has been hounding this movie like a bad PR nightmare. So with mild expectations off I went to see it.
THE GOOD
One of the things I appreciated about the the first Fantastic Four was that it didn’t try to be X-Men or Batman. This is NOT a “dark” movie. They set out to make a lighter hearted comic book movie, and they at least did that part right. The first 20 minutes or so of this film capture that pretty well too. The film is light, doesn’t take itself seriously at all and seems quite content to be just a fun, non-serious comic flick.
The Silver Surfer was a big point of apprehension for me when I first heard he was going to be in the film. I thought for sure he would end up looking like a cheesy silver dude with a surfboard. How on earth do you make that look cool in a live action film? Well… they did it. Hats off to them, Surfer looked totally fantastic in both his pumped up super mode… and his powered down mode (if you’ve seen the film you know what I’m talking about.
Sadly, that’s all for the good… now on with…
THE BAD
How the hell do you have a movie called “Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer”, and then have such a small amount of the Silver Surfer in the movie at all?!?!?! As a matter of fact… get this…. SILVER SURFER DOESN’T EVEN HAVE ANY FIGHTS IN THE FILM! He never throws down with the Fantastic Four, he takes one shot at Doom, and then just dodges some missiles. So yeah… a movie called “Rise of the Silver Surfer” has the Silver Surfer with about 15 minutes of screen time with ZERO fights. All he does in the movie is go around digging pot holes for Galactus! LAME LAME LAME LAME!
This one is so absurd my head literally started to shake just now while thinking about it. If you’re going to have a comic book movie… DON’T SPEND MORE TIME ON WEDDING PROBLEMS THAN YOU DO ON ACTION!!! You wanna know what the BIGGEST and longest action sequence is in the entire movie is??? You wanna know what the big fight was in the film? Are you ready for this? The Fantastic Four vs. a giant falling Ferris Wheel! Yes, you read that right. The big main action set piece in this film was The Fantastic Four vs a Ferris Wheel. Do I really need to say any more?
As mentioned earlier, one of the main things that made the first Fantastic Four film watchable to me was the silly charm and humor. That was sorrily missing from this film. Their idea of a fun charming funny scene? Mr. Fantastic dancing at a night club while getting all stretchy. I was so embarrassed for the movie at this point that I had to cover my eyes.
Let’s not forget about Galactus. YES, he was indeed a giant galactic storm cloud. Not just hiding in a storm cloud… he is a storm cloud. Now granted, the effects of the storm cloud in question looked pretty cool… but LOOKING cool wasn’t the problem. He was a storm cloud. I’m all for letting directors make some creative changes with characters. Use a brown haired guy to play a blonde superhero. Change costumes. Alter the looks… I’m totally ok with that stuff if it works. But to change a character from a regular looking human character (for all intents and purposes) into a gaseous entity is pushing that way too far. I have several FF fan friends who were just livid.
OVER ALL
The lighthearted nature of the film along with some decent effects with the surfer and a mercifully 91 minute running time, makes Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, the best comic book film of the summer so far. But this summer… that’s not saying much. This is a terrible movie, and unlike what most other people are saying, I think this film was a huge step backwards for the franchise. Little Silver Surfer with no fights at all… the Fantastic Four vs. a Ferris Wheel… a supposedly “main character” that just digs pot holes… no humor or charm that the first one had… all leaves Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer a regrettable theater going experience. Over all, I’m giving the film a 3 out of 10.
Finally, the first of this year’s summer blockbuster that offers non-stop action, speed, catastrophy and visual effects that although may look cartoonist, we can say at the end of the film, “That was tight!”
This is so much better than the first movie,.. I hated the first installment of Fantastic Four because it didn’t live up to the expectations advertised by the studio.
‘Fantastic 4: Silver Surfer’ does come off as something more for children and adolescents to enjoy, nevertheless it has enough Jessica Alba to keep male movie audiences seated.
It’s clobbering time!
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Hey Chris,
You said:
“I’m seeing an obvious pattern emerge on this site. I think John and his friends “enjoy” disliking certain films.”
Strange thing to say considering I’m one of the only people on the planet who somewhat defended the first FF movie.
And no, I don’t enjoy “disliking” certain types of films. I call it like I see it.
I totally disagree with every comment John has made about this movie.
I’d lay out my points and debate it, but really they’re just opposite of what John said.
I really enjoyed the movie, and yes, I am a longtime reader of the FF (including the original Lee/Kirby line). It is different from the comic in some ways, but I enjoyed it. As far as no action, etc… I just disagree.
I also knew what John’s review would say before I came to the site and read it. I’m seeing an obvious pattern emerge on this site. I think John and his friends “enjoy” disliking certain films. I know they’ll disagree, but it’s my opinion after being on this site for 2 years.
I no longer respect the opinions of The Movie Blog, though I do still enjoy the podcast for the humor.
in that above comment after i said chased surfer i was meant to put and defeated doctor doom just thought i would clear that up so i dont look like a total spastic
i totally agree with john galactus as a storm cloud completely ruined the film for me and as a comic fan i would have loved to see galactus in all his glory plus the silver surfer was crap in the film and i feel you didnt really connect with him as a character and so when he turns against galactus at the end it all feels a bit rushed to accomadate the story.plus it seems this movie should have been called human torch with his 3 useless sidekicks rise of the silver surfer because human torch was the only thing that did anything he chased the surfer and he defeated. the film was an utter dissapointment just like ghost rider i hope comic movies pick up soon or it may be the end for this genre of movies
a black mans opinion
I have never read a FF comic book, but I did watch the old 60s cartoon and 90s cartoon, I thought the first one was okay it was great but it is not as a bad as catwoman or daredevil, this is an improvment of the first one.
I knew the whole story about the surfer and Galactus and never imagined that they would do a movie based on this story to be honest with you,
this is my point with galactus if they did him in the way he was done in the comics then the only ones who get a kick out of it would have been the comic geeks(which I consider myself to be)but I am pleased and satisfied in the way he is portrayed cause I have formed my own opinion about it, I see it like he was in the middle of the cloud he just never spoke cause they are propably saving him for a silver surfer spinoff which I am sure they will make.
I guess you can say i am bias in my opinion cause Im black and tim story is black and Im gonna support him cause he is (hate me if you want that is my nature) I find it quite true that this movie is not for people who are reading and love the modern FF,but for those who want something light and that they can take anyone to this movie and have a good time.
The FF should not be compared to the X-men,spiderman,hulk,and so on
cause the FF are praised characters in thier world after they defeat Doom they dont get chased by the military,looked down upon by society or have false accusations made up about them in the newspapers they are looked upon as being in the spotlight and the first to be called upon on a scene.
oh yeah you can expect to see another one cause micheal chiklis is signed on for another one but I dont think Tim story will direct though.
Hey I just got back from seeing Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer and this movie really delivers!!! Rise of the Silver Surfer is the sleeper hit for the summer. The movie is not ever going to compete with the Spidey series or the Superman series because the Fantastic fouer comic book never had the kind of readership that Spidey and Superman had. But the movie still rocks andd I guarantee that the studio has okayed a third installment
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If you are proven right, that means that nobody gives a hoot about the FF; but rather The Silver Surfer and Namor. (Indeed, I think Tim Story mentioned Black Panther at one time?) Anyway, Namor could have his own picture (and given history, deserves a solo pic) …but if there is an FF3, I’m voting for: Skrulls, Puppet Master or High Evolutionary.
Note: since FOX puts out FF and X-Men, and Ralph Winter co-produced both…I would not mind a crossover of a Human Torch/Iceman or a TWO IN ONE where Thing meets..whoever.
I don’t know why people hated this movie. I kind of like it. I had my five year old daughter and wife with me when watching this. It was their fathers day gift to me. I wasn’t expecting academy award winning acting – I was expecting a fun summer movie and that is exactly what I got.
“Also, at a later point in the film we see inside the cloud. Galactus isn’t in there… he IS the cloud.”
John, you need to see it again and watch more closely. Galactus is indeed inside the cloud. I won’t give any plot details away here for people that haven’t seen it, but we went back a second time to make sure we saw what we thought we saw and he is indeed there.
It when SS flies into the heart of the cloud.
my 6 yr old son and i both enjoyed the film.
although, they probably should have stayed away from the silver surfer/galactus story. that is way to complicated a story to tell and it was very ambitous. the writers should have stayed with another doom or a mole man story line.
come to think of it, the next ff movie, namor is probably going to show up, the reason being is because????…. i don’t want to spoil anything for those who haven’t seen it yet.
Hey Cosmic,
No… he is just a cloud… not hiding in it. The shadow was the shape of the helmet… but as the cloud went past you see it was just in that shape. The shadow was just an homage to the original Galactus.
Also, at a later point in the film we see inside the cloud. Galactus isn’t in there… he IS the cloud.
i have to say that the “giant cloud thing” is stupid… but i kind of get it.. at some point in the movie WE saw a big ass shadow on planet saturn.. well.. for any FF comic book that IS the galactus helmet shadow… sooooo he is NOT a big giant cloud.. he is inside it.. now, i sayd it before that i GET the idea because.. well.. there is going to be a Silver Surfer movie right ? so my guesses is that Galactus is indeed apear in that one.. no cloud.. the REALL DEAL !!
or at least i hope…..
I have not been to canada but if that is what storm clouds look like up there I would live in constant terror!!!
I personally thought the “cloud” looked great…I am sorry purists but if a guy had appeared in space in a big purple suit with a big helmet it would have looked fucking stupid….
having said that this film has me at a loss for words. It is absolutely terrible. I thought the first one was fine for what it was but this was on a whole new level of bad…….every aspect (aside from the effects which for the most part looked great) was bad…bad story..bad direction…..bad acting. Just a bad bad bad film….it has to be seen to be believed….
the worst of which is Jessica Alba is a terrible actress but she is not helped with a script that looks as if it was written in half an hour by corky from that old tv show……she is also not helped by that fact that they seem to have assigned her the worst makeup person in the world who had obviously made it his/her goal to make alba as unattractive as possible.
oh and julian mcmahon or whatever his name is…when i read the comics growing up i never heard his whiny awful accent in my head when I read stories about doom….garrrrrgghhh.
the worst part is I think in its opening weekend it made pretty much what my two favorite films of the year so far made in total combined……
after this terrible start to the summer (although i liked pirates) at least you all have transformers to look forward to..it really makes up for all the disappointment this far
HEY,hey guyz..you all..
ouch,,don’t be like that..
at last just appreciate all of that how the story,the people and all of the team has done of FANTASTIC FOUR 2 did at all..
come on don’t mocking n mocking them after all
because all the maker’s team,the actors n actress have did the best 4 u all ,yeah maybe it was a lil bit dissapoint u..but forget it all &why u don’t try 2 enjoy it..it doesn’t bad at all..
AND I LIKE IT VERY MUCH,,FANTASTIC EOUR 2 IS AWESOME!!!!
ROCK YA!
John hit a lot of things on the head i had not thought about.
Yes, i enjoyed most of the film, and Yes it was a lot better than FF 1.
However, like a lot of fans I was expecting the FF to at least battle the Surfer Once before they teamed up with him.
I agree with John, The Surfer Did NOTHING in this film and was hardly in it. Was he friggin cool? Hell Yes! I wanted to see more of him.
The ferris Wheel scene was lazy writing period! It was the fire truck scene from FF 1 redone but on a larger scale.
Look, i am NOT one of these action junkies that everyone keeps complaining about, but I would have liked some better, longer action scenes.
I don’t mind the personal stories aspect of comic movies WHEN the acting is good and the dialogue is good.
The main problem is the majority of this film is about Reed and Sue and the fact is the dialogue is corny, Alba is a horrible actress, and gruffud looks uncomfortable in his role. They have ZERO chemistry and it makes their scenes awkward and boring.
One last thing, I know it is “cute” to see the antics of Ben and Johnny, but by the climax of the film I was friggin sick and tired of their juvenile crap. These two idiots act like they are 12 years old when the whole world is going to hell.
Grow up assholes!
FF 2 had a lot that was good about it but a lot that was bad. I thought that it was an entertaining film, BUT it was not a great film and could have been a lot better.
A lot of people here who say that FF is supposed to be “light-hearted” are using that to excuse the films flaws. “Light-hearted” films do not have to have crappy acting and corny dialogue.
And, while YES Jessica Alba is one of the hottest women on earth, She is one of the shittiest actors EVER. Period! She sucked balls in this film and I spent most of the film wondering why Reed Richards would ever marry that twit.
On that note, Gruffud? Mr fantastic, looked very uncomfortable in his role and didn’t seem natural. As much as I love the actor, his reed richards has nevenr exuded the confidence that the comic book reed has.
the soundtrack: I didn’t really like the music in this film. i know this is a small nitpick but I thought it was a little too “epic” superhero cliche music.
The Good:
The effects looked great and were 10 times better than the first one!
Michael Chiklis and Chris Evans once again make the film. They were the best thing in there.
For an alternative POV, there’s the positive review I just read over at Cinematical.
http://www.cinematical.com/2007/06/16/review-fantastic-four-2-scotts-review/
( I read some comments but not all so if what im saying has already been said then my bad)
I liked this movie. The thing is a lot of you are complaining about how much this movie sucked ass but you’re comic fans. It sucked to you but to an outsiders point of view the movie was cool; my brother freaked out about how awsome this movie was, he said it was the best superhero movie he had ever seen. I don’t share his enthusiasm but FF: Rise of the Silver Surfer was not for die hard fans, it was for new comers. Silver Surfer= AWSOME, Galactus= COOL BUT NOT WHAT I WANTED.
Well, I just got out of the movie. Gotta say, I enjoyed it. Fantastic Four was always cheesy to me in the comics…but I think they got the feel mostly right for the movie…had a good time, which is what I pay my money for…
BOATLOADS better than Spiderman 2 and 3, for certain.
**I still feel whored out everytime I have to brainwashingly type in Optimus, ya know!
i feel bad for these FF movies, it seems like people shit on these movies for being the way it always was.
i can understand the need for action john, but since theres 2 ways of viewing the film (comic book geek/movie critic) it seems like no matter what i say will have no overall purpose. the character of the silver surfer does not need or care about fighting, and it was quite obvious of that when watching the film. look how he dealt w/ the people he was up against.
i seems like FF is just not the movie for you, or alot of other people because it doesn’t take itself seriously, theres no love triangles or dead father figures that propel the main character to do obsurd shit, theres no “real world” setting or none of these people are outcast. it seems like people are so conditioned to like these serious comic book movies, that the second theres a movie about getting married, and superpowered people who are faced with being famous and dealing with bring kids into that world, or even super powered people who aren’t superhero’s….yes, the fantastic four are scientist, not capturing purse-snachers superheros, that people fall out of touch w/ them
hate the acting, hate the casting department, but i’ve seen NOTHING in these 2 movies that Tim Story and crew totally fucked up on
This movie sucked – a 2 out of 10. Spidey3 was infinitely better than this. What an embarrassment.
Man this movie is just totally crap. the dialog was probably the worst thing i have heard in forever. Just horrible. The only issue i take with your review is you rated it way to high! HAHAHA.
So you think it was better than Spider-man 3? I dunno the way you describe FF2…at least Spidey 3 had some awesome action sequences. That has to give it the nod over FF2 if it’s big action set piece is a ferris wheel.
Ouch.
It seems I had seen the same movie as….Elr1c?
OH YES.
I could not disagree with Gio and the rest of you on this.
Everyone was upset about Galactus as the hurricane storm cloud before this film was released. I heard so many bad, bad, bad, bad BAD things left and right, up, down this way and that. I just wanted to see Silver Surfer and what role Doctor Doom would play.
That’s it. Since there will supposedly be a Surfer film, or even a FF3 I really didn’t give two scoops about Galactus. He’s sort of like this Macguffin. Sure, I would have liked an additional ten minutes to have more zap and zing with Galactus, or heck, even Reed Richards communicating with Galactus and making him stop.
I didn’t mind the PG rating. I don’t think it was “dumbed down” for young people. Adults in the theatre I was in laughed at the joke with Reed and Ben in the wall. The stuff at the so called Ferris Wheel was alright. Nothing great, but given the idea that the FF has the power swap going on and the “Wolverine” like theme with Human Torch (re: “we work as a team”, don’t be the lone wolf etc. life lesson like that)
But to me, there was one standout in the film- and in a good way (minus the “ya think” shot) …JESSICA ALBA. What an improvement. I really liked her far more than I did in the previous film. The FX were also a big improvement, and it shows. I liked it a LOT better than Gio did, and I think he’s so far off base overall. But that’s okay- after he reads this, he might think I’m smoking something too.
I’d give it a “go” on the No/Go/Routh meter; a 6 out of 10 for me.
So what didn’t I like?
*Doctor Doom has little screen time, and you can smell his game a mile away. His “stage of evolution” is GREAT but really short lived. I wished the filmmakers could have milked this a little more. Gio wished more action/fights with Surfer. I…have to say this. Without his board…he’s bored, and when exhausted he turns into…this dark purple ash dude?
* The Army. “Taps” being played when they arrive; (quick!Where’s that cliche post!) and they go where they want when they want, they go covert, they have a…fella who is all too eager to play Alien Autospy, and they have this sweet, baby face cute gal who refuses Torch’s flirtations. Hey, if my g/f looked like Vanessa Minilo I wouldn’t think of fooling around…and what is SHE there for anyway?
*Again, the mention of “other worlds” by Reed. It’s a throwaway line, but made me scrath my head. Did they fight the Skrulls in between movies? How do *they* know there’s planets outside of the solar system by name and that they were inhabited? Inquiry minds wish to…no, on second thought, we don’t.
*The Stan Lee cameo. Why not reprise his role from the previous film (note: in theory, he can say he’s “Stan Lee’. There was once an ish of the FF in which the FF sold thier likeness to a comics company!) Still, it reads like a lame joke. Sorry, Stan.
*While Galactus is a MacGuffin to me; it was …well, undercranked. Note the last shot- if “something” still exists, then…yes, using the —- as a beacon is a masterstroke.
*Is the water still drained? Is a lake still frozen?
*If the rules in the first film apply, why does Reed’s clothes stretch with him?
I would’ve given it a 3 too.
It’s too bad I didn’t place a bet on your rating prediction.
I could’ve had my pockets full right now.
this movie shouldn’t have been pg in the first place
Sorry to say it but john got it dead wrong on this one. This movie was a solid PG type superhero movie. I mean people complaining that it’s campy I don’t think have ever read a comic book. The fantastic four isn’t a dark comic and it shouldn’t be a dark movie.
This movie was fun the silver Surfer effects were cool he had a lot of screen time and even though there were no epic battles there were lots of good little ones.
This movie is a solid 6 or 7 out of ten, just don’t go in expecting batman begins and you’ll have fun. over all if you gonna take your gf out or wife or something this is a type of movie they could handle. maybe not a lets get the buds together and go see it type flick but decent fun.
Thanks.
I’ll wait for the DVD.
One thing that really stuck in my crotch too, which i didn’t mention on Friday, was that Tim Story was clearly leaving these long comic pauses (like when Ben & Reed get squashed into a wall)………for jokes that are in no way funny. Nobody laughed at anything in the film. A little heads up for Fox; if you’re movie has more than a little comedy in it then it might be smart to do what other studios do with comedies; they test screen them so they know what jokes work and which ones don’t. Then you go back to the editing room and you cut out the pauses that don’t need to be there. I know, i know, it sounds craaaaaaaaaaaaazy.
If they’d cut out the comic pauses, the film would have been like 70 minutes long.
John, what did you like better, Fantastic four 1 or 2?
Just curious.
Anyway, I was actually having high expectations to see this, but when I heard this review, I’m starting to wonder. Should I at least see it in the matinee theater?
congratulations to Elr1c for posting the same fucking argument as before
This movie was SUPPOSE to have action action ass kicking and more action
ITS THE FUCKING FANTASTIC FOUR
and as far as a good story goes….it didn’t even have that
now carefully..before anybody else makes another comment…WE’RE NOT SAYING EVERY COMIC BOOK MOVIE SHOULD BE ALL ACTION AND ASSKICKING we’re saying those that suppose to have it should
and this one was is suppose to…even if the script is shit
Agree to that, Kristina.
“Anyway, me, I care mostly about the STORY. Just like Pixar”
The Incredibles. I was expecting a kids movie but it turn to be a really good film.
Here here, man. Kids aren’t as stupid as people think. You can make a smart flick that kids and their parents can enjoy. If you don’t believe me, ask Pixar.
I agree that this movie is terrible, but the review above draws this conclusion for all the wrong reasons. “… DOESN’T EVEN HAVE ANY FIGHTS! … ACTION!!! … action… action… fight… no fights…” – you sound almost like an obsessed, crazy person. Who cares about story, character development, acting and such – you just want your ACTION! ‘Coz it’s just a “fricken comic book movie”, right? That’s why Batman Begins, X-Men 2 and Sin City were so good, because they had ACTION!
I really hate people that expect movies belonging to a certain genre to be just an extension of certain characteristics of that genre and nothing more. People that care only about the action in action movies, the action and special effects in comic book and sci-fi movies, the gore and scares in horror, the fart jokes in comedies and so on. People that go see a certain movie expecting precise things based on its genre and who start bitchin and moanin afterwards when they don’t get them. BTW, one thing I love about asian cinema is that it mixes genres more frequently and successfully than americans do.
And where does it say that a comic book movie has to be mostly about action? There are some comic book movies that are not superhero-oriented (Ghost World, American Splendor).
Anyway, me, I care mostly about the STORY. Just like Pixar – which is what makes their animated movies the best. I’ll also go into Transformers hoping it will have a good story to tell, not expecting only ACTION!!! ROBOT FIGHTS!!! YEAH!!! like some people do. (Actually, I usually check the ratings and read the reviews, so I’ll probably skip it if ACTION is all it has)
It’s also sad what “for kids” has come to mean. It has become a synonym for “mediocre” and “superficial”. People use it to defend terrible movies just because their 4 year old enjoyed it. I’ve read many reviews and opinions on imdb or elsewhere where people admit that a certain movie wasn’t that good, but their 3 or 5 year old kid enjoyed it, so it must be good, but for the kids – and then they lament about fewer movies for kids being made these days. It seems that somehow, having a child makes some people more stupid.
Cause Campea it’s comic book related.
F Tim Burton
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! heheheheeeeeeeeeee
well apparently roger & ebert fucking loved the movie and give it a glorious review
heres the clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Blaze87,
If you weren’t talking about the movie, in the movie review comments section… then why are you leaving the comments here? I suggest leaving them in the appropriate comments section… or email me directly.
I saw that Tim Story used a version of the Ultimate Galactus for the movie (ie Big head). Thats exactly why I hate this revisionist Ultimate Universe it gives these directors & Marvel the easy way out. Stop being embarrassed by your characters! I FEEL CHEATED!
When it come to changes. It cracks me up how some fans are so willing to defend changes for the sake of the studio’s & pleasing the general audience by getting rid of the so-called hokieness. Example let not show The Watcher or Galactus because they are 15 ft tall & no one would believe it, yet most movie goers will gobble up the Transformers with no problem.
Jaysmack,
Obviously you didn’t read my whole review. I said right in it that I totally agree with creative licence and that sometimes changes have to be made. I’ve also said from DAY 1 that you can’t have Galactus as a simple giant man in purple with a bread maker for a helmut. But a storm cloud is not a change of colour… or change of style.
That’s like saying Make Megatron a Pony with pink bows.
I understand adaptation… and i agree with it. But a storm cloud? Tht was horrible. They should have just left Galactus out of it.
Campea I was’nt talking about the movie.
“fantastic four IS action and ass kicking with inner team conflict and deep characters”
I got inner team conflict vibe from reading the script from the first movie.
Blaze87
No one EVER said it had to be all action all the time.
But for Fuck’s sake… the movie is called “Rise of the Silver Surfer”, and it’s a comic book movie… and the dude doesn’t have one single solitary fight.
The fantastic Four fight a Ferris Wheel
The last fight of the movie was like 45 seconds long (I won’t give spoilers).
There is a middle ground between all action… and ZERO action. This movie was a failure.
For the entertainment value.
nobody expected explosions and ass kicking when they went to go see road to perdition. nobody is saying EVERY SINGLE comic book movie should be all action
however this was a movie about the fantastic four…and the fantastic four IS action and ass kicking with inner team conflict and deep characters…and both movies didn’t give us worth a shit of those. if you can’t make the movie properly then fucking don’t.
JaySmack I tend to agree, it’s not the look, the character of Galactus is rich all by itself.
why do you waste your time seeing terrible movies, that are obviously going to suck
I was’nt talking about the movie I’m talking about comic book movies in general, you can’t have an hour and a half superhero movie with nothing but action, would tend to get boring very quick, like a fight scene that’s too long.
1.) Fantastic Four is not X-Men, amazing how some people don’t get that. Fantasic Four is supposed to be light-hearted, it’s not Batman Begins or Blade. And A History of Violence and Road To Perdition were both “comic book movies,” and didn’t have explosions or tons of fight scenes. They weren’t about action, they were about character.
2.) Why is it some people always think a literal translation of comic book figures (image-wise) will look bad? After T-2 we all know a silver man can be done and done well. So why did anyone doubt it? Taking a comic book character directly from page to screen as-is is about the only thing comic-book movies do right. Example: the Fantastic Four’s blue tights. I have yet to hear anyone say they look “stupid” or “dumb” or “less than believeable.”
3.) Which brings me to Galactus. We must throw out the idea that characters in “comic book movies” must adhere to the design of the comic page. Michael Bay has shown the way in Transformers, he’s freed us from the need to follow any old, “uncool” designs. Every director must be free to put his “stamp” on the movie he makes, and to hell with the assholes who whine about it -that’s their problem. Tim Story’s changes has made Galactus better.
What did you want John? A giant MAN with a BUCKET on his head! LOL! That’s a dumbass-looking image!
And I won’t let those who praise Bay’s raping of the TF franchise say an unkind word about FF2’s portrayal of Galactus. He/It is huge, eats planets, and has a herald called the Silver Surfer. If that’s not Galactus, then what is?
Don’t bitch and moan because they make a couple of small changes. Accept them, better yet, PRAISE them! Open your minds and be willing to accept a little creative license from filmmakers. I mean, it’s only a movie.
Superheroes are not muscle headed stereotypes.
Ya know want John I can’t talk to you on the comic book genre anymore in the comments section.
all comics were corny and extremely juvenile even batman…but imagine if batman begins was like lava boy or shark girl. i as a fan love the superheroes for what they were and what they evolved into….but i want to see a movie as how we see them…and the fantastic four has evolved well beyond the kiddie era….if this was a modern adaptation of the fantastic four….it should in no way be compared to shark boy and lava girl
Blaz87, you said:
“John, you sound no better then Doug, bitchin and moaning about action.”
Gosh… I wonder why i would do that? Hmmm… Oh yeah… cause it’s a fricken comic book movie!
When I hear someone refure to an upcoming sequal as ‘darker’ I translate it to be ‘better’. I think having a darker subtext, and treating the children as adults rather than infants makes the film overall more enjoyable.
Brian
John, you sound no better then Doug, bitchin and moaning about action.
F***Timburton,
I used to read allot of Fantastic 4 comics as a kid. They are one of the most juvenile & campy mainstream superhero comics that exist. Fantasti-car? Mr. Fantastic? Come on! Don’t make the F4 any more than they are.
I respect the opinion that some have (as you do) that they wanted it to be a Batman Begins style movie…but then it wouldn’t be the Fantastic 4.
larry
everything that you just said is exactly whats wrong with this franchise. this is suppose to be a movie about THE MOTHAFUCKING FANTASTIC FOUR! it should in no way compare to MOTHAFUCKING SHARK BOY AND LAVA GIRL. This movie should be straight up MOTHAFUCKING ass kicking .you have 1)the fantastic four 2)DR. MOTHAFUCKING DOOM! and 3) the silver surfer. this was just yet another butchery of what should have been a great comic book movie. of course your kids like the movie…THEY”RE FUCKING KIDS…they enjoy anything with bright colors and shouts weeee weee weee. this movie should never have been aimed at kids every real fantastic four fan wishes death upon those responsible for this shit.
I haven’t seen FF2, but my biggest problem with nr 1 was Doom. They completley destroyed the character. He is supposed to be mysterious and menacing, and you aren’t supposed to see his face at all. I don’t really think it was necessary to change the character that much really.
As for Galactus, how should they have done him. In the end i don’t think they should have done the Silver Surfer just yet, if at all. I think Mole-Man would have been a better villain for this movie. Then we could’ve had more action-scenes cause that is a villain that the FF can actually fight. And if they wanted beings from another planet why not the Kree or the Skrulls. Super-Skrull would have been cool. it might have been cheesy, but these movies are pretty cheesy already
This summer movie season is turning into the WORST summer I can remember. Man, Transformers had BETTER bring the goods…………..
I took my kids to see FF2 today, and they enjoyed it. People have to stop comparing Fantastic Four to Batman/Spider-man/X-men because they are completely different movies. Fantastic Four is more like Spy Kids or Shark Boy and Lava Girl.
I have 5 kids (11,10,8,7,6). The sceens that I rolled my eyes at, my kids cheered. Yes, it was campy, but that seems to be what they were going for. I watch Legion of Superheros and Justice League Unlimited on TV with my kids. FF2 was a live action version of that. And judging it from that point of view….it was a good movie….better than the first…and better than Spider-man 3 and X-men 3….because it didn’t forget what kind of movie it was, and it did that well.
Now, Galactus as an intergalactic storm cloud. That was a brilliant idea. Realistically, if you had never heard of Galactus, and you were thinking of a alien-being that could devour a planet…..it would look exactly as Galactus did in the movie. My 8 year old knows Galactus, and when I asked him what he thought of ‘him’ in the movie he said, “He was hiding in that cloud. Too bad we didn’t get to see him.” When I thought about it, that was the perfect response. Yes, we didn’t get to ‘see’ the Galactus of Marvel canon, but what we did get served the story well. Remember, we all wanted to see Venom….and look how that turned out.
When judging FF2 on the level it was intended to be judge, I loved it.