you can not get out of being a Christian if you truly accepted Christ as your personal savior.

you can only stop acting like a Christian. to be a Christian means to have a good relationship with Christ and to believe that he came to die on the cross for us so that we could go to heaven and have eternal life forever!!!

thats what a Christian is, Christianity is not a region its have a relationship with Christ!

john, would you please give me more info about the movie im not really sure i understand what your trying to get across

As far as the rest of the ranting are going in this thread:

Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

Samuel I 15:3 Go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Isaiah 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

Isaiah 42:13 The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war

…et ceterea…

And, more recently: The Crusades, the Inquisitions, the Reformation (and associated wars), WW-I (the fall of the Ottoman Empire), WW-II (Hitler was Catholic and claimed he was doing God’s work), and, of course, modern day terrorism.

In fact, more people have perished in the name of religion than for all other reasons combined!

I dont know if jesus would return. Due to my faith and the differences it has taken me from my religion of birth, I do not know If i believe 100% that the heavens will open up and that he’ll raise the dead from the earth and into heaven and all of that. But I do think there will be a time where evil people will pay for what they do.

maybe the war on terror is simply a backlash on the people who refused to try and stop such things from happening.

Listen to this person John he is making a great point. There is a time and place for violence and at times G-d and Jesus/Yeshua would approve of violence to oppose evil.

“The other half of what you need is a realization that Jesus was a Jew, and , while he never spoke about using violent protest to solve any instance, what he did in the temple, i argue with you legitimately, was violence.”

Yes, this is true! Jesus also advocated that his disciples purchase weapons [tools of violence].

Luke 22:36 records that after the Passover meal; ‚Ķ (Jesus) said to (his disciples), “But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one ‚Ķ‚Äù

…to really understand christianity you’ve done half of what you have to do, in recognizing the paradigim shift it took through the Papacy and since, with Catholicism.
The other half of what you need is a realization that Jesus was a Jew, and , while he never spoke about using violent protest to solve any instance, what he did in the temple, i argue with you legitimately, was violence.

In the temple, he released a herd of animals to stampeed through and thew things at people. I was told in an anger management class and by a psychologist that threatening, yelling and forceful action IS violence.

I as a christian believe there is a time for war and a time for peace. I wish the world was ready for peace and it saddens me to know it is not. If you look at both sides of the equation , this could be a great documentary.

my email invitation stands to you. use my knowledge on religion as your own. I am a Hebrew/christian hybrid with an intimate knowledge of both religions’ history, culture and messages.

I do hope you have success in this.

I kinda wish I were Mr. Stay Puft me did a better job of making my point.

Mike

“An act that is wrong is wrong for everyone in the same situation, but almost no act is wrong in every situation. Sexual intercourse in marriage is sacred; when violently coerced, it is rape. Truth telling is usually right, but if, during World War II, Nazis asked you where a Jewish family was hiding, telling them the truth would have been evil.

So, too, it is the situation that determines when killing is wrong. That is why the Ten Commandments says “Do not murder,” not “Do not kill.” Murder is immoral killing, and it is the situation that determines when killing is immoral and therefore murder. Pacifism, the belief that it is wrong to take a life in every situation, is based on the mistaken belief that absolute morality means “in every situation” rather than “for everyone in the same situation.” For this reason, it has no basis in Judeo-Christian values, which holds that there is moral killing (self-defense, defending other innocents, taking the life of a murderer) and immoral killing (intentional murder of an innocent individual, wars of aggression, terrorism, etc.).”

Well said, better than me in fact and that’s why I love Prager. Sorry If I sounded too angry in my post guys! :) I don’t mind hearing somebody else’s perspective I think he should do this and get real intelligent people from BOTH SIDES.

Second, I have to agree with Halcyon to some extent: all violence is not the same. There are different types of violence, for example, ethnic cleansing violence (Milosevic) and violence against (in this case) a dangerous dictator (Saddam). Like it or not, many of us do see this war as a necessary war. The ‘paper tiger’ is real.

And by the way, that was some suave IP address investigating….I recall something similar happened to me ;)

Peace.

I also don’t think John Campea is begging to be the next Michael Moore.

There’s always another perspective than what you yourself see. This doesn’t mean that it’s wrong.