Just a theory. I follow movies but not the technicalities so tell me if I’m wrong here but the movie’s coming out mid 07. That’s quite a long way away and who’s to say that it doesn’t get knocked back just like most projects in entertainment do?

So we’ve got loads of time for production and so as the movie is just getting going maybe Bungie wanted to bag Jackson straight away and the easiest way to get him in was to appoint him EP. If you think about it, he enjoys Halo 2 to play and it’s said on the BBC news website that he’s ‘greatly looking forwards to the project’. So Bungie has a man that’s not only a creative genius, but also very eager with the film.

Sounds to me like he might get a promotion once it’s kicked off. I mean who’s got the power to appoint the director, co-director or producer with the nod from Bungie? Peter Jackson.

All I’m saying here guys is that no industry is a solid shell of rigid rules. You can bend them to suite the job to a certain extent.

So John, if i had some advice for you it’d be never state something as true if you can’t prove 100% that it’s true. Suggest it, sure, but don’t state is as ‘fact’ (as you have done already) when you can’t be entirely sure.

The above is my theory. I’m not saying it’s fact. Sure, it’s not as lightly as your theory, but it’s possible, which proves that yours isn’t ‘fact’ yet. Not yet.

I’m not accusing you here by the way. Just trying to keep people’s eyes as open as possible.

Thanks :D

Glad I’m not the only one who can see through the Peter Jackson/Halo hysteria. I’ve been saying exactly the same things on our forum over at CB.

Nobody is trying to put Halo down by saying this. All we’re trying to do is get people to have a little perspective over this news.

Spielberg has executive produced dozens of movies, do you really think he had creative input on the majority of them? Not really, most of them only got his name on a credit because they were produced/financed through Amblin. Do you really think he had time to have input on all those movies while sustaining his own creative vision in his own movies during the 80s; his most creatively-intensive period? No. That’s not to say he didn’t hold some sway over some, but only ones he was more directly involved in anyway – whether it be because he was writer/full producer/passed on directing himself but handed to a lowlier director as a favour while he did something else.

This is good news for Halo. It’s just not the good news rabid Halo fans are turning it in to.

Remember what happened with Serenity guys. Rabid fandom can turn regular people and regular geeks away from your movie. Don’t make it flop by becoming the next generation of Browncoats.

May I just open a point for debate;

There’s the whole hum-ha about how much PJ is gonna

partake in Halo. The whole explaination and

dictionary definitions of his role or, more importantly,

non-role in the movie is quite clearly put and I haven’t

seen many people contradicting your opinion/research on

the matter. The Exec isn’t the the movie God.

That box is checked.

So much so in fact that only a lone soul could I find

in direct opposition against what I find to be quite a

steadfast and well constructed argument you have placed.

That one person is….

Dan…. Dan…. Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan………!

John Campea!!!!!

No. one has not lost one’s mind!

Observe!

Follow me into this rabbit hole of complex contradiction….

I recently got sooooo tired of waiting for the next Audio Edition

(Good complaint! The frickin thing RUUUUULES!

A residency is held in my mp3 player!!!!!!)

….. that I resorted to downloading every single one

of em and backtracking, after all it’s good timeless

debate, not just old news.

I reached Vol 6 and came across what I found to be a

tentatively diappointing remark made by yourself. Anyone

can dl vol6 and check this.

I say “tentatively disappointing” because I await your response.

The following was exclaimed in regard to T-Formers posting

re: the upcoming movie version of the TV show…

“…. Steven Spielberg is going to act as one of the

Executive Producers on the project, which any

Transformers fan should be excited about because;

Spielberg involved? That’s instant credibility!……”

What the……..?

You mean to say that senor Spielbergo in a mere

Execs role can bring instant cred to this movie?

Then why not PJ? Why not to Halo?

I’m not of the opinion that you have double standards

and I’m pretty damn sure that you know what you’re

talking about when it comes to movies.

Wanna clear this one up?

I guess that makes you even “sadder” for taking time to comment on it.

So you say: “botom line it will rock and thats all you should care about”

I’m curious… what do you base that opinion on? The long line of successful video game movies in the past? Oh wait… there aren’t any.

Perhaps you base that on the long list of great movies Bungie has produced… oh wait… they don’t know anything about making movies.

Ummm…. ok… so what do you base that on?

First it seems you have a general idea of what an executive producer does, but not a clear concept of what impact he has on a film. The executive producers involvement in a project can vary a lot, but basically they are like “the man” that the crew has to report to and please.

It’s only a good thing to have Peter Jackson involved. As executive producer he can pull together teams and resources he’s used for other films if he wants to. This would be a good thing.

If he wanted to do the very least possible he’d invest a buncha money, trust everyone else to make a good movie, and then screen it and say: a) It’s good, release it. b) It stinks but just release it anyway c) It’s not very good, but with a bit more money for some reshoots etc it can be or d) It’s good, but it could be great with some more money.

Saying he’s running the ship isn’t entirely innacurate. He’s not the captain or crew of the ship, he’s in the cruiseline management that owns the boat and sends it out.

So…what does this mean? Up to you to what you think will happen with the film, but in my opinion it’s clearly a good thing to have Peter Jackson in on the film. With him in early he can have an effect on the film throughout the all important stages of getting the cast and crew together. Who knows, he could decide to take on a larger role. Likely at this point it is still in such an early phase of production that the crew hasn’t been lined up yet anyway so he basically is at the helm until then regardless of whether he will be during production.

Hope it’s good. Of almost any game made, I think this is among the best set up for a film adaptation. Of course, there’s a good chance it could suck.

http://www.edge-online.co.uk/archives/2005/10/peter_jackson_a.php

“Halo will be shot in Wellington, New Zealand, and will use Jackson’s production and post-production facilities there.”

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticleSearch.aspx?storyID=200859+04-Oct-2005+RTRS&srch=halo

“During the XBOX 360 press conference in Amsterdam, Jackson appeared on the big screen and announced how big a fan he is of the Halo series, commenting that he’d finished playing Halo 2 while filming King Kong.

He said that he loves the games so much that he wants to work with the filmmakers on the movie. He is going to be Executive Produer, but is going to be a lot more involved than a EP tends to be. The folks hosting the conference made it clear that he won’t be directing it, but they are going to make the movie in New Zealand, and Jackson is going to use his resources.”

http://forums.3dgamers.com/showthread.php?t=7604

In my opinion, both those who are saying that “he won’t actually do anything” and the ones who say “he is in charge of the project” are wrong. He WILL have some creative input and make some decisions, but it’s not yet clear in what degree. Anyway, time will tell.

And in no way am i defending the rumours. In fact, as fun as they are to discuss at points, i think the entire experience of initially experiencing a film for the first time has almost been ruined by internet rumours, and more specifically, fanboys. It’s bad enough that trailers sometimes give away too much, now it’s the never ending discussion of details of the films years before principal photography has even begun. (not that i’m saying i don’t enjoy discussing such things to a certain extent, i just feel it’s changed the film going experience in a negative way) HOWEVER, when it comes to films such as Halo, which i have no personal interest in, carry on!

Good points… but the examples you raise are the exceptions to the rule. Not to mention that you have to look at all of this in the light that both Jackson and Bungie have already laid out the limitations of Jackons involvment… and that Jackson is making and direction his own film at the same time.

My point was that Spielberg was already creativly invoved in the film

Lucas was already creativly involved in his films

Jackson is not… and according to Bungie… he won’t be.

Once again… I’m just going on what Jackson and Bungie have said and published in interviews and press releases available for everyone to read. I don’t even know why this is a debate. This isn’t my “interpretation”… it’s what they’ve said.

Cheers.

I think Poltergeist is a great example. It doesn’t matter that Speilberg wrote it because writer’s don’t get any say when it comes to the shooting of their script, and generally aren’t even allowed on the set. HOWEVER, Spielberg DID have a HUGE hand creatively, mainly because of his exec. producer position giving him the power to get his hands on things creatively. To this day it’s arguable over who really deserves the director credit on that one.

And the ULTIMATE proof that an executive producer can have a HUGE hand in a film creatively…..GEORGE LUCAS??? He was exec. producer on Jedi and Empire. Just because he wrote them doesn’t mean that that’s the only reason he was creatively involved in the shooting of the film.

And with Jackson, i’m sure he will have some sort of input on the choice of a director, which is a HUUUGGEEEE piece of creative involvement.

Anyways, that’s that.

jay